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  • Kestryll
    Head Janitor
    • Oct 2005
    • 21610

    Important changes to CGN Contributorships!

    As of 4/1/2013 the Contributorships will be a joint process between CGN (Calguns.net) and CGSSA (Calguns Shooting Sports Association) with CGN offering the perks and the funds going to further CGSSA's non-profit outreach, community efforts and 2nd Amendment grassroots activism.

    From your end what you will see as far as changes is exactly one thing, the 'CGN Contributor' title will become 'CGN/CGSSA Contributor'. That's it, nothing else changes for the Contributors.
    What changes behind the scenes is that with this change all funds from Contributorships will go directly to the Calguns Shooting Sports Association (CGSSA).

    As many of you know CGSSA is the evolution of the Calguns C3 volunteer organization. We have incorporated CGSSA and filed all the necessary forms with the IRS to be a 501(c)4 non-profit. For those unaware of the difference, a 501(c)4 non-profit is NOT a tax deductable charity or organization. However because it is not tax deductable there are NO LIMITS to the political activities, electioneering and support or opposition CGSSA can be involved in.
    CGSSA has also registered with the NRA's Affiliates program.

    CGSSA is all volunteer from the President down to the guy helping to pick up trash at a BLM range (often times they are the same person!) and both positions are equally important. This means ALL of the funds from Contributorships will go to events for the community, shooting outreach such as Women on Target and grassroot political efforts.

    Up until this change I have, through CGN, been fully funding all of the C3 and now CGSSA activities with funds from both the Contributorships and the advertising. This change takes CGN out as a middle man and gets funds directly to CGSSA. I will still be using CGN advertising funds to augment CGSSA and it's activities until such time as they are self sufficient, this is a first step down that road.



    Unfortunately this does create a minor problem but one with an easy fix.

    New recurring Contributors will automatically set up automatic annual payments through the CGN website to the CGSSA account.
    However existing recurring Contributors will likely have an issue since they already have existing automatic paypal payments set up with CGN's account.
    Based on the number of failed automatic renewals I am seeing in the logs it looks like this is going to present a problem. I am looking at how this can be rectified on the back end of vBulletin but I suspect what will have to happen is cancelling the recurring payments to CGN and re-sign up as Contributors to link to CGSSA's account.


    If this is the case this is the process for cancelling recurring payments:
    1 Log in to your PayPal account.
    2 Click Profile near the top of the page.
    3 Click My money.
    4 Click Update in the My preapproved payments section.
    5 Click Cancel, Cancel automatic billing, or Cancel subscription and follow the instructions.

    Signing back up is the same process as when you originally became a recurring Contributor, setting up a new recurring payment will be handled automatically just as it was before.


    To be blunt, it's a pain in the butt, I know.
    But the end result, a non-profit CGSSA grown out of the CGN community working to grow and protect shooting sports in local chapters and to increase 2A activism is worth a little hassle.

    Kest
    sigpic NRA Benefactor Life Member / CRPA Life Member / SAF Life Member
    Calguns.net an incorported entity - President.
    The Calguns Shooting Sports Assoc. - Vice President.
    The California Rifle & Pistol Assoc. - Director.
    DONATE TO NRA-ILA, CGSSA, AND CRPAF NOW!
    Opinions posted in this account are my own and unless specifically stated as such are not the approved position of Calguns.net, CGSSA or CRPA.
  • #2
    AyatollahGondola
    Senior Member
    • Feb 2008
    • 1162

    Originally posted by Kestryll
    As many of you know CGSSA is the evolution of the Calguns C3 volunteer organization. We have incorporated CGSSA and filed all the necessary forms with the IRS to be a 501(c)4 non-profit. For those unaware of the difference, a 501(c)4 non-profit is NOT a tax deductable charity or organization. However because it is not tax deductable there are NO LIMITS to the political activities, electioneering and support or opposition CGSSA can be involved in.
    CGSSA has also registered with the NRA's Affiliates program.
    Kest
    I'm slightly confused. There's no 501c3 now?

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    • #3
      LBDamned
      I need a LIFE!!
      • Feb 2011
      • 19040

      Nice to see you parlaying it into benefit...

      I guess the combined contributor title hasn't happened yet? As of this post mine (and others I've seen) have the old CGN only.
      "Kamala is a radical leftist lunatic" ~ Donald J. Trump

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      • #4
        Ricky-Ray
        Veteran Member
        • Jan 2010
        • 3161

        Originally posted by AyatollahGondola
        I'm slightly confused. There's no 501c3 now?
        Calguns is the 501(c)3, CGSSA is the 501(c)4
        Ray

        "If you lead your life the right way, the karma will take care of itself. The dreams will come to you." - Randy Paush, Carnegie Mellon University

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        • #5
          readysetgo
          CGSSA Coordinator
          • Aug 2011
          • 8694

          Putting the money where your mouth is? No, this is better. More like paving the road where your feet will take you!

          Thank you CGN and all the contributors!
          Stand up and be counted, or lay down and be mounted... -Mac

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          • #6
            Kestryll
            Head Janitor
            • Oct 2005
            • 21610

            Actually CGN is an S Corp, CGSSA is a 501(c)4 and CGF is a 501(c)3.

            The combined title should have taken effect, for some reason they haven't yet and I'm poking around under the hood trying to fix that.
            sigpic NRA Benefactor Life Member / CRPA Life Member / SAF Life Member
            Calguns.net an incorported entity - President.
            The Calguns Shooting Sports Assoc. - Vice President.
            The California Rifle & Pistol Assoc. - Director.
            DONATE TO NRA-ILA, CGSSA, AND CRPAF NOW!
            Opinions posted in this account are my own and unless specifically stated as such are not the approved position of Calguns.net, CGSSA or CRPA.

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            • #7
              Ron-Solo
              In Memoriam
              • Jan 2009
              • 8581

              Any chance of getting affiliated with CMP as an approved club for their membership requirements?

              Just a thought. Sounds like you have a lot on your plate.
              LASD Retired
              1978-2011

              NRA Life Member
              CRPA Life Member
              NRA Rifle Instructor
              NRA Shotgun Instructor
              NRA Range Safety Officer
              DOJ Certified Instructor

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              • #8
                taperxz
                I need a LIFE!!
                • Feb 2010
                • 19395

                Originally posted by Ron-Solo
                Any chance of getting affiliated with CMP as an approved club for their membership requirements?

                Just a thought. Sounds like you have a lot on your plate.
                Not a bad idea!! Although it would be through CGSSA if it could be done.

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                • #9
                  greybeard
                  Senior Member
                  • Nov 2008
                  • 1086

                  So what happens to somebody that paypal charge on April 8th, but I still do not have access to the lounge?
                  John

                  The internet is like a 12 step group. Take what you need and leave the rest.

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                  • #10
                    six10
                    Member
                    • Dec 2009
                    • 463

                    Originally posted by greybeard
                    So what happens to somebody that paypal charge on April 8th, but I still do not have access to the lounge?
                    Is blessing in disguise, greybeard.

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                    • #11
                      naimad
                      Veteran Member
                      • Mar 2006
                      • 4477

                      Originally posted by greybeard
                      So what happens to somebody that paypal charge on April 8th, but I still do not have access to the lounge?
                      I have the same problem charged on april 3rd
                      Last edited by naimad; 07-15-2013, 6:52 AM.

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                      • #12
                        greybeard
                        Senior Member
                        • Nov 2008
                        • 1086

                        Originally posted by naimad
                        I have the same problem charged on april 3rd
                        You ever find out who had the money?
                        Last edited by greybeard; 07-15-2013, 9:04 AM.
                        John

                        The internet is like a 12 step group. Take what you need and leave the rest.

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                        • #13
                          Kestryll
                          Head Janitor
                          • Oct 2005
                          • 21610

                          There was a week or two where paypal messed up CGSSA's account and several people who signed up were not set as Contributors automatically.
                          PM or email me info on the payment and I'll set it up manually.
                          sigpic NRA Benefactor Life Member / CRPA Life Member / SAF Life Member
                          Calguns.net an incorported entity - President.
                          The Calguns Shooting Sports Assoc. - Vice President.
                          The California Rifle & Pistol Assoc. - Director.
                          DONATE TO NRA-ILA, CGSSA, AND CRPAF NOW!
                          Opinions posted in this account are my own and unless specifically stated as such are not the approved position of Calguns.net, CGSSA or CRPA.

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                          • #14
                            greybeard
                            Senior Member
                            • Nov 2008
                            • 1086

                            Thanks, email sent
                            John
                            John

                            The internet is like a 12 step group. Take what you need and leave the rest.

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                            • #15
                              naimad
                              Veteran Member
                              • Mar 2006
                              • 4477

                              Originally posted by Kestryll
                              There was a week or two where paypal messed up CGSSA's account and several people who signed up were not set as Contributors automatically.
                              PM or email me info on the payment and I'll set it up manually.
                              pm sent thanks

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