Gun buy back program

[dmcmillenfv]

Normally I am against this practice, but I have an old broken shotgun that would cost more to fix than its worth, and was wondering where and when the next gun buy back program is in SoCal. Id rather get something for it than nothing.

[The Gleam]

Something that has always baffled me; everyone complains about these gun buy-back programs, and ALL with good reason. They are nothing more than gun-grabbing tactics.

BUT... when you consider the cost versus some of the guns we have seen in the photos and videos that police and news capture of the haul (including the occasional mint-condition Colt Python, early 1911, original Lugers, or early Winchester lever actions, Garands, etc.) why doesn't some enterprising gun store with enough money to back it, buy up about 300 $100 and 200 $200 Gift Cards or so, on a discounting deal (from a gun-friendly business like Turners or Big-5, or grocery stores that did NOT back other gun buy-back programs), do it just like the gun-grabbers do, and hold their OWN gun buy-back program? Guaranteed the majority of individual guns, or even the overall average of the take would be worth $300 at least or more.

Maybe Calguns Foundation can help us hold our OWN gun buy-back program through a sponsored dealer? Any of the C&R stuff could then be sold here to Calguns members, and then anything sold by the dealer to out-of-state sales ( if it couldn't be sold as SSE, or due to AW status or roster, etc.) the profit after the dealer's expenses could be plowed back into the cost to run the program?

We can get as much media attention behind it as they do, by NRA headlining it, here, the stores involved get free PR out of it, and there would surely be news stories on the matter.

I say it's time we beat them at their own game.

[The Gleam]

Normally I am against this practice, but I have an old broken shotgun that would cost more to fix than its worth, and was wondering where and when the next gun buy back program is in SoCal. Id rather get something for it than nothing.

It only costs more to fix it than what it's worth, if you have to have someone else fix it for you. I have repaired numerous guns, cars, HVAC units, lawn-mowers, chainsaws, vacuum-cleaners, printers, paper-shredders, dishwashers, garbage disposals, you name it - all because someone was discarding them because they thought them to be irreparable or too much in cost to fix - and here I was fixing them at no cost, each and every time, or for the piddly price of parts.

What kind of shot-gun is it? What's broke? Let us take a stab at it first and you might be able to sell it here for $100 CASH instead of the $100 Ralph's grocery gift-card you would only get out of the buy-back program anyway.

It might be worth that in parts alone!

[dmcmillenfv]

It's a savage .410 bolt action shotgun.. I do all my own gun work as well and the previous owner ruined the gun, ground on every internal part. The blue book on it is 150-200 and at least 75-100 in parts.. Just not worth my time for a .410

[ptroxx]

Wall art.... Just sayin... would look good in a reload room

[The Gleam]

It's a savage .410 bolt action shotgun.. I do all my own gun work as well and the previous owner ruined the gun, ground on every internal part. The blue book on it is 150-200 and at least 75-100 in parts.. Just not worth my time for a .410

Bummer. Yep, maybe worth about $50 from your description. Sad.

I have a Savage Model 24 .410/.22LR over-under in mint condition, beautiful, and if ever shot even once, I would be surprised.

When you started off "It's a savage .410...." I got excited.

[artoaster]

I would rather burn it or chop it up with a torch than take money from a Gun Buy Back Program!

[bucket49]

RODGER THAT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

How can some govt. agency BUY BACK, what they NEVER OWNED?????????

[thomashoward]

I would rather burn it or chop it up with a torch than take money from a Gun Buy Back Program!

+100

[sleeper2020]

If your willing to donate it to an aspiring gunsmith I could use it. I am working on getting certified as a gunsmith and broken weapons would help me learn the trade. Just an idea.

[allenst65]

BUT...
why doesn't some enterprising gun store with enough money to back it, buy up about 300 $100 and 200 $200 Gift Cards or so, on a discounting deal (from a gun-friendly business like Turners or Big-5, or grocery stores that did NOT back other gun buy-back programs), do it just like the gun-grabbers do, and hold their OWN gun buy-back program?

Good luck finding a gun store willing to hand out money to buy back stolen guns or guns used in crimes, "no questions asked".

Think of who are turning in guns at these buybacks:
1) those who possess the guns illegally,
2) those who have used the guns illegally (and need a way to ditch it), and
3) those who are just too stupid or lazy to realize they could actually sell their guns for closer to what they are actually worth (assuming they are actually the legal owner) through some other legal channel

Of course, the only time someone would dare drive up to a cop to handover an illegal gun would be if they could do so under total amnesity, and this is exactly what it is all about.

The elected officials and community serving police have created this media event showcasing how they are making the streets safer, eliminating those evil weapons one gun one at a time, all the while helping those who seemingly can't help themselves by handing out gift cards. They are pandering to a crowd of criminals and idiots, simply using it as another way to push their anti-gun and total disarmament agenda. The liberal politicians and police brass get another 15 mins of fame on the nightly news, corporations get some good P.R. for making the world a safer place (and probably a tax break for the 'donated' gift cards), and the little people get some great new groceries and a way to have their illegal affairs absolved (or at least melted down).

You really think any legitimate gun store or gun rights organization would want to be associated with this kind of event ??

If I were a thug, I'd be laughing all the way to my local Safeway, gift card in hand, knowing I had a legit way to ditch my crime guns at any of these gun buybacks.

[The Gleam]

Good luck finding a gun store willing to hand out money to buy back stolen guns or guns used in crimes, "no questions asked".

Have you inquired, pitched it, and checked any more than I have? Doubt it.

Think of who are turning in guns at these buybacks:

1) those who possess the guns illegally, (More often than not, WRONG)
2) those who have used the guns illegally (and need a way to ditch it), (More often than not, WRONG)and
3) those who are just too stupid or lazy to realize they could actually sell their guns for closer to what they are actually worth (assuming they are actually the legal owner) through some other legal channel. TRUE, and that is ALSO why a dealer might take it up.

Of course, the only time someone would dare drive up to a cop to handover an illegal gun would be if they could do so under total amnesity, and this is exactly what it is all about.

Not the case and rarely are they criminals or banned from owning guns; some people are just dumb and have no respect for history, 2nd Amendment rights, or actual value; they simply want a $100 grocery store card, and in a state that impresses upon people with so much FUD on those who are NOT gun enthusiasts, they in turn banter about rumor that they must have a license, that guns must have papers, must be registered, must be locked up on Sundays, all kinds of crazy crap; so much so, they are in FEAR of even owning Grandpa's Luger bring-back for fear they are in some kind of illegal ownership.

The elected officials and community serving police have created this media event showcasing how they are making the streets safer, eliminating those evil weapons one gun one at a time, all the while helping those who seemingly can't help themselves by handing out gift cards. They are pandering to a crowd of criminals and idiots, simply using it as another way to push their anti-gun and total disarmament agenda. The liberal politicians and police brass get another 15 mins of fame on the nightly news, corporations get some good P.R. for making the world a safer place (and probably a tax break for the 'donated' gift cards), and the little people get some great new groceries and a way to have their illegal affairs absolved (or at least melted down).

OK - true, but turn it on it's ear. You can say all the same, because yes, people not interested in gun safety or proper responsibility of gun ownership, and storing guns safely away from children or thieves and DON"T want to own the gun at all, SHOULD have a RESPONSIBLE and ETHICAL outlet to turn in guns through the same gun buy-back style program, but one that preserves and respects history, the 2nd Amendment, and responsible gun ownership. We take them rather than the anti-@nd Amendment crushers, we plow them back into preservation, and surplus funding for Calguns Foundation.

Most of the time? I am betting the poorer-class and uneducated turning in these guns for $100 Grocery cards could not give one wit about the propaganda behind the scheme; they simply want a $100 Grocery card for something they don't want (or even like) anymore.

You really think any legitimate gun store or gun rights organization would want to be associated with this kind of event ??

YES - in order to SAVE guns from being destroyed, especially when we have seen valuable collectible C&R show up at such events. There could easily be a good proft margin behind it when any odd number of Lugers, Pythons, or early 1911s (or any older Colts and Smiths for that matter) turn up.

If I were a thug, I'd be laughing all the way to my local Safeway, gift card in hand, knowing I had a legit way to ditch my crime guns at any of these gun buybacks.

But that's just not the case, and the propaganda schemers know it. Otherwise, they would be touting any guns hauled in returned to the original owners due to stolen goods, or disocvered linked to crimes - but you nearly never hear of such a result.

Secondly, it's been shown that the MAJORITY of guns turned over in gun buy-back programs are NOT turned in by criminals or illegally owned. It's often the daughter of the Korean War vet that inherited her father's guns and simply doesn't want those "tools of death" around her home any more. Sad but true.

But for a more simple answer; work with LEO authorities on-site to sponsor the same checks on the serial numbers they do; this could even be facilitated through the same idea of pawn shops and consignement guns for a 30 day hold that pawn-shops must adhere - those truning them in simply get the same amnesty that they would enjoy in these other anti-2nd Amendment programs, AND because it is privatized, it doens' cost taxpers any money to run.

I don't have the ability to contemplate every possible scenario here in the limitations of a post and/or a non-venture for ME; but if I were to vet the idea in full, yes, I would sit in think-tank mode to curb any sway of something that might prevent it, shoot down naysayers with results, and work with favorable authorities and the like to make it happen.

But more importantly, we would be beating the Anti-2nd Amendment crowd at their own game.