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  • #16
    tacticalcity
    I need a LIFE!!
    • Aug 2006
    • 10916

    Originally posted by ptoguy2002
    I agree with all of what you have said, especially the ban hammer bit and the fun part.
    BUT, it still shows the CRIMINAL USE of a firearm.
    At some point you have to say so what. Political correctness is fine in moderation. But it can quickly become overkill.

    I would much rather that depiction than say an avatar of TJ Hooker improperly holding a firearm pointed up next to his head with his finger on the trigger. TJ Hooker might be political correct, but the message that picture sends about firearms safety has and will continue to get people killed.

    If the "criminal depiction" gets the younger generation to watch a film that demonstrates how to properly use a firearm, then I say is far better for the gun owning public than a "lawful but unsafe" depiction we get from Hollywood on a routine basis.

    The two best examples of proper firearms techniques are both "criminal" characters in film. As far as I am concerned they are gossple and should be force fed to every gun owner in the country morning, noon and night.

    Collateral 2004 (Tom Cruise gets it 100% right, just about every other character in the film gets it 100% wrong)

    (Fixed it)

    Miami Vice TV Show, This is the very first example of proper gun handling I've ever seen filmed. Didn't notice it when it first aired, but was really excited to rediscover this scene many years later when watching a rerun.
    Last edited by tacticalcity; 09-29-2010, 1:38 PM.

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    • #17
      DVSmith
      Cantankerous old coot
      CGN Contributor - Lifetime
      • Dec 2007
      • 3702

      Originally posted by ptoguy2002
      Yeah, I would agree on the posts, but what are you gonna do.....
      I hear ya, but when you have posts to deal with, the avatar issue seems tough to tackle.

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      • #18
        DVSmith
        Cantankerous old coot
        CGN Contributor - Lifetime
        • Dec 2007
        • 3702

        Originally posted by lewdogg21
        This thread is silly.

        IBTL!

        Oh noes, a dead animal is my avatar! (Yes it's me in the picture and I shot it)
        Is there a "silly" lock? I must have missed that in the rule book.

        Wait, there can't possibly be a silly lock, because if there were, more than half of the threads on this board would be locked!

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        • #19
          ptoguy2002
          Veteran Member
          • Jul 2006
          • 3863

          Originally posted by lewdogg21
          This thread is silly.

          IBTL!

          Oh noes, a dead animal is my avatar! (Yes it's me in the picture and I shot it)
          No problem with it at all. Wish there were more like that.
          WTB: SWISS & German police trade in pistols
          WTB: German made & proofed SIG P226R & P228R
          WTB: Factory cutaway pistols & rifles
          WTB: LAPD Ithaca M37 / CHP S&W / Other PD trade ins....

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          • #20
            tacticalcity
            I need a LIFE!!
            • Aug 2006
            • 10916

            Originally posted by ptoguy2002
            No problem with it at all. Wish there were more like that.
            So ticking off the PETA people is cool with you, but ticking off the extremely wacko left who are going to be ticked off no matter what you do isn't?

            Who is going to be offended by that avatar that would not have already been offended that we are discussing firearms in the first place? The general public is certainly not offended to see the criminal depection of the use of firearms...box office sales and TV ratings have more than proven that. Only somebody who already has an axe to grind, and most likely not even then, would find such avatars offensive.

            Pandering to the extreme left will get you no where. No matter what you do they are going to hate you for owning a gun. You shouldn't have to become the morality police enforcing their sensibilities on your fellow gun owners. Short of melting down your firearms they are going to hate you. Especially since it is completely futile. Even then, I am sure they will find plenty of other things about you to complain about once your firearms are gone.

            You are not only in the minority, you are in a minority of one.
            Last edited by tacticalcity; 09-29-2010, 1:51 PM.

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            • #21
              ptoguy2002
              Veteran Member
              • Jul 2006
              • 3863

              Originally posted by tacticalcity
              So ticking off the PETA people is cool with you, but ticking off the extremely wacko left who are going to be ticked off no matter what you do isn't?

              Who is going to be offended by that avatar that would not have already been offended that we are discussing firearms in the first place? The general public is certainly not offended to see the criminal depection of the use of firearms...box office sales and TV ratings have more than proven that. Only somebody who already has an axe to grind, and most likely not even then, would find such avatars offensive.

              Pandering to the extreme left will get you no where. No matter what you do they are going to hate you for owning a gun. You shouldn't have to become the morality police enforcing their sensibilities on your fellow gun owners. Short of melting down your firearms they are going to hate you. Especially since it is completely futile. Even then, I am sure they will find plenty of other things about you to complain about once your firearms are gone.

              You are not only in the minority, you are in a minority of one.
              Its not the extreme left I would be worried about, nothing you did or didn't do would satisfy them. Its the middle of the road folks (and impressionable types) that see an avatar like that and come away with the wrong idea.
              But you don't seem to get what I am saying: It shows the CRIMINAL USE of a firearm, which doesn't look good. To somebody unfamiliar, it would appear to be endorsing or admiring such a thing (why else would you use it as an avatar?).

              I guess I am in the minority here though.
              WTB: SWISS & German police trade in pistols
              WTB: German made & proofed SIG P226R & P228R
              WTB: Factory cutaway pistols & rifles
              WTB: LAPD Ithaca M37 / CHP S&W / Other PD trade ins....

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              • #22
                tacticalcity
                I need a LIFE!!
                • Aug 2006
                • 10916

                Video games, movies, TV shows, music sales all say the exact opposite with regards the middle of the road. They could careless, or more likely would find it appealing. They have been completely desensatized to the sort of thing you are suggesting. Only those with an axe to grind would find issue with it. No need to pander to them.

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                • #23
                  Gryff
                  CGSSA Coordinator
                  • May 2006
                  • 12686

                  Originally posted by ptoguy2002


                  There are rules for T&A avatars, how about "guns in use by masked criminals during a crime" ones too? Doesn't come off very well.
                  That's not a masked criminal committing a crime. That's an actor in a movie. The stuff in movies aren't really happening when they film them.
                  My friends and family disavow all knowledge of my existence, let alone my opinions.

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                  • #24
                    Saigon1965
                    CGN/CGSSA Contributor - Lifetime
                    CGN Contributor - Lifetime
                    • Nov 2003
                    • 17276

                    I had an avatar that was changed by a mod -

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                    • #25
                      ptoguy2002
                      Veteran Member
                      • Jul 2006
                      • 3863

                      I lost, no worries....
                      WTB: SWISS & German police trade in pistols
                      WTB: German made & proofed SIG P226R & P228R
                      WTB: Factory cutaway pistols & rifles
                      WTB: LAPD Ithaca M37 / CHP S&W / Other PD trade ins....

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                      • #26
                        Bobula
                        Calguns Addict
                        • May 2007
                        • 9371

                        Hey op, are you missing the ability to distinguish between reality and fiction?
                        Originally posted by Kestryll
                        Yeah, don't tell that rat bastard Kestryll, he'll shut it down.

                        Fascist pig....

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                        • #27
                          ptoguy2002
                          Veteran Member
                          • Jul 2006
                          • 3863

                          Originally posted by Bobula
                          Hey op, are you missing the ability to distinguish between reality and fiction?
                          Reality or fiction, it doesn't matter, the point I was trying to make is the same.
                          Are you missing the ability for for associative reasoning?

                          And I already admitted defeat, so why the bash?
                          WTB: SWISS & German police trade in pistols
                          WTB: German made & proofed SIG P226R & P228R
                          WTB: Factory cutaway pistols & rifles
                          WTB: LAPD Ithaca M37 / CHP S&W / Other PD trade ins....

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                          • #28
                            Two Shots
                            Senior Member
                            • Mar 2007
                            • 2022

                            Originally posted by ptoguy2002
                            Reality or fiction, it doesn't matter, the point I was trying to make is the same.
                            Are you missing the ability for for associative reasoning?

                            And I already admitted defeat, so why the bash?
                            Some people don't approve of Train avatars, trains scare them.
                            "I have a love interest in every one of my films - a gun."
                            - Arnold Schwarzenegger

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                            • #29
                              ptoguy2002
                              Veteran Member
                              • Jul 2006
                              • 3863

                              All right, I'll join the club, I changed mine to one from a MOVIE.
                              WTB: SWISS & German police trade in pistols
                              WTB: German made & proofed SIG P226R & P228R
                              WTB: Factory cutaway pistols & rifles
                              WTB: LAPD Ithaca M37 / CHP S&W / Other PD trade ins....

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                              • #30
                                guitar-nut
                                Senior Member
                                • Aug 2010
                                • 694

                                Originally posted by ptoguy2002
                                All right, I'll join the club, I changed mine to one from a MOVIE.
                                Haha, sweet avatar! I think a ban on this would be laughable.

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