Marketplace Suggestion: Stop Removing Prices When Sold

[RobMG19]

Hi!

Have been enjoying CG since I first joined a few months ago.

I have noticed something I only really see on this forum and not any other forums I frequent (Automotive ones).

When people list their items for sale, I notice more often than not that when the item sells the seller will remove the price they had listed and put "SOLD" instead.

I wanted to see if there was a specific logic for it? Maybe we can encourage people to just put "SOLD" after the price that was listed.

The reason I feel it is beneficial to keep the price is that it helps both perspective buyers and sellers of the specific item to see the prices the item was both listed for and potentially sold at so they can see the potential market value of the item.

I know this can't be an enforceable rule, but just wanted to see if maybe it would be good to try to encourage this change from sellers? Always open to discussion as to why it may be better to just remove the price after an item sells.

[9Cal_OC]

New here and already making suggestions jk

Tbh, even when people mark “Sold” you get buyers still asking “Still Available” or “What’s the price”. Perhaps maybe we should offer literacy or comprehension lessons instead

Not saying it’s frequent, but it does happen. I usually remove the prices so people don’t ask what I mentioned above. If someone inquired about what I listed it for, then I’ll share.

But do note that the listed price isn’t always the selling price. So it still may not be a true indicator on prices.

[RobMG19]

New here and already making suggestions jk

Tbh, even when people mark ?Sold? you get buyers still asking ?Still Available? or ?What?s the price?. Perhaps maybe we should offer literacy or comprehension lessons instead

Not saying it?s frequent, but it does happen. I usually remove the prices so people don?t ask what I mentioned above. If someone inquired about what I listed it for, then I?ll share.

But do note that the listed price isn?t always the selling price. So it still may not be a true indicator on prices.

Fair enough reason!

I do agree about the listed price not being the most accurate indicator. But it can at least be a decent starting point in figuring out the expected price to sell/buy/or even gain any interest.

[The Gleam]

Fair enough reason!

I do agree about the listed price not being the most accurate indicator. But it can at least be a decent starting point in figuring out the expected price to sell/buy/or even gain any interest.

1) That's what Gunbroker is for. It gives you a better measurable contemporary report of what someone is actually willing to pay based on the highest winning bid. Simply log in and search under 'Completed Auctions'. (but maintain a healthy skepticism for winning bidders that recently joined Gunbroker and have a rating of 'NR' and especially when the item is mysteriously relisted just a month or so later due to a supposed 'nonpaying bidder'.)

2) The internet is forever. Maybe the seller, or the buyer, or neither want that to be the business of anyone else or other third parties - and can completely understand. And what someone bought/sold something for is nobody's business 10 years down the road. And rightfully, Gunbroker deletes auction results after a very generous 90-days.

Such is also the reason I tell any sellers to not leave me any iTrader feedback - ever. It's nobody's business what I've bought on Calguns, recently or 10 years ago - let alone anywhere else, for anything else, at any time.


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[RobMG19]

1) That's what Gunbroker is for. It gives you a better measurable contemporary report of what someone is actually willing to pay based on the highest winning bid. Simply log in and search under 'Completed Auctions'. (but maintain a healthy skepticism for winning bidders that recently joined Gunbroker and have a rating of 'NR' and especially when the item is mysteriously relisted just a month or so later due to a supposed 'nonpaying bidder'.)

2) The internet is forever. Maybe the seller, or the buyer, or neither want that to be the business of anyone else or other third parties - and can completely understand. And what someone bought/sold something for is nobody's business 10 years down the road. And rightfully, Gunbroker deletes auction results after a very generous 90-days.

Such is also the reason I tell any sellers to not leave me any iTrader feedback - ever. It's nobody's business what I've bought on Calguns, recently or 10 years ago - let alone anywhere else, for anything else, at any time.


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1. I have seen gun broker! But does gun
broker help determine off roster going rates for us California people? That?s what I had been really trying to get market information for.

2. But then wouldn?t it just make more sense to delete the entire ad? Rather than just the price, which is what I see the most here.

[9Cal_OC]

1. I have seen gun broker! But does gun
broker help determine off roster going rates for us California people? That?s what I had been really trying to get market information for.

2. But then wouldn?t it just make more sense to delete the entire ad? Rather than just the price, which is what I see the most here.

You can post a thread asking about what X goes for. Some will chime in with a range of pricing.

[TKM]

https://truegunvalue.com/pistol/ruger-blackhawk-bisley/price-historical-value

[M76]

really need to put "sold" in the thread title, and not bump thread to state "sold"

[The Gleam]

1. I have seen gun broker! But does gun
broker help determine off roster going rates for us California people? That?s what I had been really trying to get market information for.

2. But then wouldn?t it just make more sense to delete the entire ad? Rather than just the price, which is what I see the most here.

1) Easy solution: you can search for sellers by location, and then look to auctions where they note the gun is available in CA by way of PPT.

One prominent top-seller in CA on Gunbroker that does this is Lock, Stock, and Barrel Investments (LSB). You can look up their past auctions for plenty of off-roster items on Gunbroker, indefinitely saved past auctions in archives on Gunauction.com, or simply go to LSB's website where they keep their own archive of items sold noting the final bid price and date sold.

2) People don't delete the full listing because it's needed for the most of people are married to the pat-on-the-head iTrader feedback reward affirmation gimmick. So it needs to stay and provide just enough info about the transaction as a qualifier.

And I agree with M76 - just change title to add 'SOLD' to the item in the title line rather than a post, because otherwise adding a post just bumps it up while still appearing as if available.

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[Supersapper]

1) Easy solution: you can search for sellers by location, and then look to auctions where they note the gun is available in CA by way of PPT.

One prominent top-seller in CA on Gunbroker that does this is Lock, Stock, and Barrel Investments (LSB). You can look up their past auctions for plenty of off-roster items on Gunbroker, indefinitely saved past auctions in archives on Gunauction.com, or simply go to LSB's website where they keep their own archive of items sold noting the final bid price and date sold.

2) People don't delete the full listing because it's needed for the most of people are married to the pat-on-the-head iTrader feedback reward affirmation gimmick. So it needs to stay and provide just enough info about the transaction as a qualifier.

And I agree with M76 - just change title to add 'SOLD' to the item in the title line rather than a post, because otherwise adding a post just bumps it up while still appearing as if available.

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iTrader is not just "pat on the head" feedback. You've been around long enough to know why it's used.

To that end, I think that the sale, once complete, remove the actual ad and leave it as a "verified ad in the past" but does not need to actually have the pertinent information as you mention.

With all of the technology this day and age, I'm certain there is a way to blank the ad's relevant information and still have it be a "verified ad" for purposes of validating the iTrader rating.

[The Gleam]

iTrader is not just "pat on the head" feedback. You've been around long enough to know why it's used.

I'll concede it has a useful utility for sellers, absolutely, especially with so many Jasons as of late.

True, it gives them a badge of honor and helps establish seller credibility. (I still don't trust it, and it can be fabricated easily.)

But as I never sell and only buy, it has no meaning for me. I would only ever do a transaction in person, cash only, so there is no way I would ever get burned, and well, never have.

Yet as a buyer, nobody needs to know if I got a pat-on-the-head nor do I need the affirmation validation of my goodliness.

In God We Trust as noted on my cash speaks on that behalf and not surprisingly others agree with that validation 100% of the time.

For that matter, the info - I'm on 'Team Complete Delete.'

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[Russian Bot]

I'd say post it for what you're comfortable taking for it. If somebody gets a deal, and you get what you're comfortable taking everybody wins. Or post it for 5x Retail and see how it goes.

[Supersapper]

I'll concede it has a useful utility for sellers, absolutely, especially with so many Jasons as of late.

True, it gives them a badge of honor and helps establish seller credibility. (I still don't trust it, and it can be fabricated easily.)

But as I never sell and only buy, it has no meaning for me. I would only ever do a transaction in person, cash only, so there is no way I would ever get burned, and well, never have.

Yet as a buyer, nobody needs to know if I got a pat-on-the-head nor do I need the affirmation validation of my goodliness.

In God We Trust as noted on my cash speaks on that behalf and not surprisingly others agree with that validation 100% of the time.

For that matter, the info - I'm on 'Team Complete Delete.'

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That was the only point I was trying to make...that it has the utility of giving a sort of "street cred" for the seller.

As far as for a buyer, you and I agree that in person, cash, F2F is the only way to go. I too have not been burned to date. I pray it always be so.

As a buyer or seller, though, I do want to know if the person I'm dealing with is someone likely to flake on the meeting, especially if I'm coming from a distance. Moreover, are you likely to try and waste my time once we meet.

[rsrocket1]

You can post a thread asking about what X goes for. Some will chime in with a range of pricing.

but many will chime in with:

"so, you're too lazy to look it up yourself!"