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  • aaronsilver
    CGN/CGSSA Contributor - Lifetime
    CGN Contributor - Lifetime
    • Jun 2018
    • 8

    Spammed after joining

    Hi, just registered with the site. Long time reader though, great site.

    Today, a couple days after registering, before I've even posted, I received a spam email:

    From: kev@lockitup.life
    Subject: Prevent the Preventable - Make guns safer with "Lock It Up" box!
    It appears to violate the CAN-SPAM act by not including a physical postal address, and probably other ways. And even if it wasn't illegal, reputable businesses don't send spam email. It looks like they want money to "crowdfund" a handgun booksafe of some kind, so I'm assuming it's just a flat-out scam targeting Calguns members.

    It looks like, by default, Calguns exposes your email address to the entire world? I assume some bot scraped it right away, and now people will be sending me scammy spam emails until the end of time.

    1. Can the site be made security by default? Email addresses are private information, and it's a little alarming it was exposed without me realizing it. Is there something I did that caused this?

    2. Even for people who choose to share their email address, it seems like there should be some kind of 'anti-scraping' to prevent bots from gathering personal information from people on the site.

    3. Is there a way to prevent any sharing of the address? Unless I'm misunderstanding, it looks like the most restrictive setting is sharing with "Friends" only.

    I hate to start out my relationship with Calguns on the wrong foot, but this kind of information leakage is problematic, and spam email is probably the least bad thing I can think of it being used for by an adversary. And there's a lot of adversaries these days.
  • #2
    TKM
    Onward through the fog!
    CGN Contributor
    • Jul 2002
    • 10657

    I've been here since before I was here. (there was a weirdness, re-set early on)

    Never been targeted like that.



    Have you considered an adblocker?

    Why did you become a CGN/CGSSA Contributor - Lifetime
    CGN Contributor - Lifetime member without checking the place out?
    It's not PTSD, it's nostalgia.

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    • #3
      Cokebottle
      Señor Member
      CGN Contributor - Lifetime
      • Oct 2009
      • 32373

      Your profile is locked down now, but was it before?
      Default for Vbulletin is to reveal your email address in your profile.
      - Rich

      Originally posted by dantodd
      A just government will not be overthrown by force or violence because the people have no incentive to overthrow a just government. If a small minority of people attempt such an insurrection to grab power and enslave the people, the RKBA of the whole is our insurance against their success.

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      • #4
        Pinto
        Veteran Member
        • Jul 2007
        • 2733

        Oh. And, by the way, welcome to Calguns.

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        • #5
          readysetgo
          CGSSA Coordinator
          • Aug 2011
          • 8689

          Your settings allow other members to send an email, which also exposes that address to the spammers who sign up here for just that purpose.

          Change your settings.
          Stand up and be counted, or lay down and be mounted... -Mac

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          • #6
            readysetgo
            CGSSA Coordinator
            • Aug 2011
            • 8689

            User CP > Edit Options > Messaging & Notification > Receive Email > Receive Email from Other Members > Uncheck > Save Changes

            Also... Allow vCard Download > Uncheck

            cgn email settings.JPG

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            Welcome aboard.
            Last edited by readysetgo; 06-07-2018, 11:42 PM.
            Stand up and be counted, or lay down and be mounted... -Mac

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            • #7
              CaliforniaCowboy
              Senior Member
              • May 2015
              • 1469

              Never had that issue.
              https://thedeplorablepatriot.com/

              "A Holocaust survivor dies of old age, when he gets to heaven he tells God a Holocaust joke. God says, That isn't funny. The Old man tells God, well, I guess you had to be there."

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              • #8
                aaronsilver
                CGN/CGSSA Contributor - Lifetime
                CGN Contributor - Lifetime
                • Jun 2018
                • 8

                Ah, I think it was the 'Receive email from other members' setting, which I think was presented during registration. I didn't appreciate that that meant 'receive email because we're going to make your email address public.'

                Originally posted by TKM
                Have you considered an adblocker?

                Why did you become a CGN/CGSSA Contributor - Lifetime
                CGN Contributor - Lifetime member without checking the place out?
                I've been checking the place out for a long time, just never joined up. And one of the CGSSA individuals was very helpful to me.

                If this is just the standard for vBulletin, I guess maybe I should have expected it. But locking this down a bit more by default for the site would be a good opportunity for the admins; just someone scraping new members for their email addresses and other info could build a database that they could use for a lot of mayhem. You can do a lot with an email address!

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                • #9
                  readysetgo
                  CGSSA Coordinator
                  • Aug 2011
                  • 8689

                  Pretty sure we were legit hacked a couple of years back, including username and passwords too.

                  Moral is, use burner email and different password than your million dollar portfolio account.
                  Stand up and be counted, or lay down and be mounted... -Mac

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                  • #10
                    mikeyr
                    Senior Member
                    • Sep 2011
                    • 1553

                    Originally posted by readysetgo
                    Moral is, use burner email and different password than your million dollar portfolio account.
                    Bingo...burner emails are easy to get on hotmail and gmail. I have many (but I own my domain so I can create/delete them on the fly) I have been doing that for years.
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                    . CRPA Member

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                    • #11
                      Dutch3
                      I need a LIFE!!
                      • Oct 2010
                      • 14181

                      I have received 100x more SPAM from orgs the NRA provided my info to than this site.
                      Just taking up space in (what is no longer) the second-worst small town in California.

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                      • #12
                        newbutold
                        Senior Member
                        • Jan 2017
                        • 1952

                        No spam here and welcome.
                        Never attribute to malice that which is adequately explained by stupidity. Robert J. Hanlon

                        No more dems, rinos, commies, , pinkos, crooks, pedos, frauds, idiots, lunatics, wanna-be dictators, traitors, old fools, or kleptocratic thieves for President from any party.

                        The demonstrators who infiltrated the Capitol have defiled the seat of American democracy. Donald J. Trump 1/7/21

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                        • #13
                          Sputnik
                          Senior Member
                          • May 2011
                          • 2145

                          For once my internet paranoia paid off and I have not been spammed through any CGN info. Now those credit reporting agencies...don't get me started.

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                          • #14
                            Powder_Keg
                            Senior Member
                            CGN Contributor
                            • Jan 2013
                            • 2203

                            Received the same spam/junk email as OP today. I use a secondary email address for CalGuns and I keep it seperate from my personal email. This is the 1st time ever getting spam to that email address.

                            As other have said, turn off the ability to receive emails or use a secondary email addresss that you are willing to ditch and replace.

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                            • #15
                              Powder_Keg
                              Senior Member
                              CGN Contributor
                              • Jan 2013
                              • 2203

                              Spam is from this guy, Kev Kutina

                              See attached images. Emails have dates from May 2018, all from the same company.

                              Kev Kutina is a forum member.
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                              Last edited by Powder_Keg; 06-09-2018, 12:18 AM.

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