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  • Shanghai guy
    Senior Member
    • Jan 2012
    • 562

    Marketplace problem

    Which moderator is best to contact?

    I reported the issue but haven't heard anything back, one way or the other.
    My ignore list is so big that sometimes, I will click on a thread and there's literally nothing there.
  • #2
    Cokebottle
    Seņor Member
    CGN Contributor - Lifetime
    • Oct 2009
    • 32373

    Nature of the problem?
    - Rich

    Originally posted by dantodd
    A just government will not be overthrown by force or violence because the people have no incentive to overthrow a just government. If a small minority of people attempt such an insurrection to grab power and enslave the people, the RKBA of the whole is our insurance against their success.

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    • #3
      SkyHawk
      I need a LIFE!!
      • Sep 2012
      • 23518

      If you are trying to report that negative feedback, use the button with the exclamation point in the triangle next to the bad feedback. Explain why you think the feedback is bogus. If you never made a deal with the guy or he flaked or could not meet on your schedule, give that info in the report.

      I would also love to hear the story - I don't want to get roped into deals with whiney-gash buyers like that. PM if you want or just lay it out here so we all can know.
      Click here for my iTrader Feedback thread: https://www.calguns.net/forum/market...r-feedback-100

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      • #4
        Shanghai guy
        Senior Member
        • Jan 2012
        • 562

        Originally posted by Cokebottle
        Nature of the problem?
        Couldn't make contact with buyer for 48 hours. No response to my texts, no PM, nothing. Had to move on to next buyer.

        Lo and behold, next thing I know he blows up a perfect transaction record I put 6 years into with a temper tantrum in my feedback record. I did not reciprocate in his, however.

        Duly reported earlier today with explanation. Saved my Sent File PMs, too.

        No response as yet, so I thought perhaps PMing a mod might prove more helpful.
        My ignore list is so big that sometimes, I will click on a thread and there's literally nothing there.

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        • #5
          -hanko
          CGN/CGSSA Contributor
          CGN Contributor
          • Jul 2002
          • 14174

          Originally posted by Shanghai guy
          Couldn't make contact with buyer for 48 hours. No response to my texts, no PM, nothing. Had to move on to next buyer.

          Lo and behold, next thing I know he blows up a perfect transaction record I put 6 years into with a temper tantrum in my feedback record. I did not reciprocate in his, however.

          Duly reported earlier today with explanation. Saved my Sent File PMs, too.

          No response as yet, so I thought perhaps PMing a mod might prove more helpful.
          Did you and the buyer agree upon a time limit of 48 hours?

          I went through a deal on arfcom last month that took almost a month from an I'll-take-it to my getting it. A great seller, but in the middle of a diy bath and kitchen remodel. Btdt and it fried my brain.

          I was up to my ears with a cutting, baling, and selling my 2nd cutting of grass hay...that took 110% focus working around weather and equipment maintenance.

          Maybe give the buyer the 3-day weekend and then proceed accordingly.

          Good luck.
          True wealth is time. Time to enjoy life.

          Life's journey is not to arrive safely in a well preserved body, but rather to slide in sideways, totally worn out, shouting "holy schit...what a ride"!!

          Heaven goes by favor. If it went by merit, you would stay out and your dog would go in. Mark Twain

          A man's soul can be judged by the way he treats his dog. Charles Doran

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          • #6
            hermosabeach
            I need a LIFE!!
            • Feb 2009
            • 19365

            It's I trader, it's a 3rd party site... smash them with 10 negative feedbacks and move along with life.....
            Rule 1- ALL GUNS ARE ALWAYS LOADED

            Rule 2 -NEVER LET THE MUZZLE COVER ANYTHING YOU ARE NOT PREPARED TO DESTROY (including your hands and legs)

            Rule 3 -KEEP YOUR FINGER OFF THE TRIGGER UNTIL YOUR SIGHTS ARE ON THE TARGET

            Rule 4 -BE SURE OF YOUR TARGET AND WHAT IS BEYOND IT
            (thanks to Jeff Cooper)

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            • #7
              Cokebottle
              Seņor Member
              CGN Contributor - Lifetime
              • Oct 2009
              • 32373

              Originally posted by hermosabeach
              It's I trader, it's a 3rd party site... smash them with 10 negative feedbacks and move along with life.....
              Retaliatory feedback is a good way to get banned from the marketplace.

              Even if the OP did not state the 48 hour time frame was reasonable (IMHO, it is, when I say "PM Sent" I'm expecting a quick response from the seller and in turn respond quickly), the buyer is not out any cash (or even gas money or time), so a negative iTrader (against either) would absolutely not be warranted.
              Last edited by Cokebottle; 09-04-2017, 12:23 PM.
              - Rich

              Originally posted by dantodd
              A just government will not be overthrown by force or violence because the people have no incentive to overthrow a just government. If a small minority of people attempt such an insurrection to grab power and enslave the people, the RKBA of the whole is our insurance against their success.

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              • #8
                SkyHawk
                I need a LIFE!!
                • Sep 2012
                • 23518

                If I understand it correctly, the buyer went dark for 48 hours not the seller, buyer did not respond to seller's texts etc. Then buyer complains about the seller being 'impatient' when leaving negative feedback for the seller.
                Last edited by SkyHawk; 09-03-2017, 12:32 PM.
                Click here for my iTrader Feedback thread: https://www.calguns.net/forum/market...r-feedback-100

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                • #9
                  Cokebottle
                  Seņor Member
                  CGN Contributor - Lifetime
                  • Oct 2009
                  • 32373

                  Originally posted by SkyHawk
                  If I understand it correctly, the buyer went dark for 48 hours not the seller, buyer did not respond to seller's texts etc. Then buyer complains about the seller being 'impatient' when leaving negative feedback for the seller.
                  Bingo.

                  No cash traded or lost, negative should be removed, or worst case, take down to neutral.
                  - Rich

                  Originally posted by dantodd
                  A just government will not be overthrown by force or violence because the people have no incentive to overthrow a just government. If a small minority of people attempt such an insurrection to grab power and enslave the people, the RKBA of the whole is our insurance against their success.

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                  • #10
                    doggie
                    Banned
                    • Apr 2017
                    • 719

                    It's a holiday weekend. Maybe the buyer was hung over or stoned out of his mind at the Burning Man festival. Gotta make allowances for holiday weekends.

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                    • #11
                      Cokebottle
                      Seņor Member
                      CGN Contributor - Lifetime
                      • Oct 2009
                      • 32373

                      Originally posted by doggie
                      It's a holiday weekend. Maybe the buyer was hung over or stoned out of his mind at the Burning Man festival. Gotta make allowances for holiday weekends.
                      Mrmauserjerry posted and PMd a day before NYPT
                      Posts were Monday and Tuesday.
                      NYPT left FB on 9-1, Mrmauserjerry posted his rant on 9-2, so no, the holiday weekend excuse doesn't fly.
                      - Rich

                      Originally posted by dantodd
                      A just government will not be overthrown by force or violence because the people have no incentive to overthrow a just government. If a small minority of people attempt such an insurrection to grab power and enslave the people, the RKBA of the whole is our insurance against their success.

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                      • #12
                        Shanghai guy
                        Senior Member
                        • Jan 2012
                        • 562

                        Originally posted by SkyHawk
                        If I understand it correctly, the buyer went dark for 48 hours not the seller, buyer did not respond to seller's texts etc. Then buyer complains about the seller being 'impatient' when leaving negative feedback for the seller.
                        Yes Sir, that's correct.

                        Buyer commits online, says "text inbound," but nothing came. 24 hours later I PMed him, asked if he's still interested, said no big deal if he isn't, but others are waiting so please let me know. Also said "haven't heard from you."

                        Seller writes that evening says "sorry, here's my cell number." So I texted him there and then, upon receipt, to arrange meeting. No reply.

                        Next day around lunch time I text again, asked if he's still interested. No reply.

                        Finally before I head home, I text again to say sorry things didn't work out, but other buyers are waiting and I haven't heard from you.

                        Buyer replies, "it's ok, please let me know if things don't work out." I said ok.

                        Sold ammo to second in line.

                        Next thing I know my reputation is smeared in a short story.

                        Please bear in mind that this exact same buyer left me a very positive review on 5/5/17.

                        I have not retaliated on his feedback because, as noted above, it's a surefire way to get banned, and I'm afraid of that. I've had good experiences on Calguns, and don't want to lose my membership.
                        My ignore list is so big that sometimes, I will click on a thread and there's literally nothing there.

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                        • #13
                          kcheung2
                          Veteran Member
                          • Aug 2012
                          • 4387

                          I wouldn't worry about it. Just block him in the future. One negative out of 53 transactions isn't going to hurt you.
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                          "There is no "best." If there was, everyone here would own that one, and no other." - DSB

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                          • #14
                            Powder_Keg
                            Senior Member
                            CGN Contributor
                            • Jan 2013
                            • 2203

                            Buyer should have been in contact ASAP after "I'll take it" post. You snooze, you loose. IMO, giving him 48hrs before moving on to 2nd inline was more than fair. Thanks for the heads up about the flakey buyer.

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                            • #15
                              Cokebottle
                              Seņor Member
                              CGN Contributor - Lifetime
                              • Oct 2009
                              • 32373

                              Originally posted by kcheung2
                              I wouldn't worry about it. Just block him in the future. One negative out of 53 transactions isn't going to hurt you.
                              Either way, it's been reported.
                              No money was lost, mods will likely move the neg to neutral if they don't remove it.
                              - Rich

                              Originally posted by dantodd
                              A just government will not be overthrown by force or violence because the people have no incentive to overthrow a just government. If a small minority of people attempt such an insurrection to grab power and enslave the people, the RKBA of the whole is our insurance against their success.

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