CA Home/Web-based FFL benefits?

[MWPatriot]

Thanks for this Quiet. Yeah at this point I'm just going fixed-mag but exception D would actually not be that difficult to get, I used to build movie websites and lived in Hollywood for quite a while. Not worth the effort though.

In the meantime I will continue pushing for HR3576 to be passed that would give everyone nationwide a reprieve if their state is run by Communists: https://www.congress.gov/bill/115th-...bill/3576/text

[weaselfire]

I know in other states one can obtain a type 07 FFL and SOT to build and own SBR & suppressors but are there additional hoops to jump through here in CA?

Lots of them. In other states as well.

I'd love to be able to build and use "assault rifles" at the range without the mag-locked nonsense (not for sale in CA obviously), own suppressors for home defense and be able to transport to and from the range without worrying about some overzealous Sheriff infringing on my civil rights.

Then you won't qualify for your FFL. You must be planning to engage in the business of firearms manufacturing and sales to qualify. It's not a license for personal use.

I have read enough about the process of obtaining said FFL & SOT licenses, local city approvals, etc but I'm not sure if the hassle outweighs the benefits if CA law prohibits even FFL owners.

Since there are hundreds of home-based FFLs in CA and many more storefront FFLs, it's obvious CA doesn't ban them. There are quite a few NFA/SOT manufacturers as well.

Best guess is you will not become one of them.

Jeff



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[MWPatriot]

Best guess is you will not become one of them.

Ha! That sounds like a challenge!!

[audiophil2]

Ha! That sounds like a challenge!!

Do it. I buy NFA stuff from FFLs all the time that want to play and then realize it is a waste of their money due to all the restrictions. I pay 30 cents on the dollar of dealer cost.

[swell1957]

CA DOJ Dangerous Weapons Permits have been required since the late-1960s (DD & MG) and early-1970s (SBR & SBS) and late-1980s (assault weapon)...

Quiet,

Any idea on this below from the DOJ BOF website? I never noticed this before. We know there are 01s and 07s with DW permits. So are they trying to limit which FFLs get DW permits now?

An applicant must have a FFL Type 09, 10, or 11 to apply for a Dangerous Weapons (DW) License/Permit through the DOJ."

From here: https://oag.ca.gov/firearms/dealer-vendor
(about 1/3 of the way down)

[Quiet]

... but exception D would actually not be that difficult to get, I used to build movie websites and lived in Hollywood for quite a while. Not worth the effort though.

Yep, not worth it.

California Code of Regulations Title 11 Divison 5 Chapter 7 Article 3.5 Section 4134
Commercial Motion Picture, Television Production, or Other Commercial Entertainment Event.
(a) Documentation required to determine bona fide necessity for possession or manufacturing of dangerous weapons for commercial motion picture, television production, or other commercial entertainment event includes the following:
(1) If an agent of a studio, the applicant must provide a letter of need and verification of employment from the studio.
(2) If an agent of a rental company or an independent property master, the applicant must provide letters of interest from the studios.
(b) Persons attempting to establish a business in this area who have not yet been retained by clients shall provide copies or business correspondence or other evidence of their activities which they deem will show reasonable efforts to supply dangerous weapons for use in commercial motion picture, television production, or other commercial entertainment event.

California Code of Regulations Title 11 Divison 5 Chapter 7 Article 4 Section 4138
General.
The DOJ shall conduct investigations of applicants for dangerous weapon licenses/permits to establish grounds for the issuance or denial of the application as follows:
(a) Related Persons. Additional persons who may be investigated are:
(1) Persons with 10 percent or more interest in the licensee/permittee's business.
(2) Persons with authority to make management decisions for the licensee/permittee.
(3) Persons who have access to the dangerous weapon(s).
(b) Applicant's Business Role and/or Control of the Business. The following areas may be investigated concerning the applicant's business role and/or control of the business:
(1) Primary function of the business.
(2) Law enforcement's comments on the business.
(3) Applicant's financial interest in the business and source of funds.
(4) Applicant's role in and/or control of the business.
(5) Spouse's association with the business.
(c) Applicant's Personal Qualifications. The following areas may be investigated concerning the applicant's personal background:
(1) Character assessment by personal and/or business acquaintances and appropriate law enforcement and government agencies.
(2) Criminal history and driving record.
(3) Military record.
(4) Past employment or expertise related to the weapon to be covered by the requested license/permit.
(5) Medical history.