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  • #31
    MotoriousRacing
    Senior Member
    • Oct 2012
    • 1971

    Corruption in the RCC caused (is causing) the desire to do things slightly different, from the church that Jesus established.

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    • #32
      kteas1
      Junior Member
      • Aug 2015
      • 94

      Read your bible and rely on the Holy Spirit. You want the truth, read it. Get confused? Pray about it, God answers prayer. Jesus is the greatest Shepard, if you feel you are lost call out and he will go for you. You will not be fooled, his sheep know his voice.

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      • #33
        mif_slim
        I need a LIFE!!
        • Apr 2008
        • 10089

        Why are there so many denominations? Simple, we titled ourselves "protestants", to protest.

        Protest: a statement or action expressing disapproval of or objection to something.

        Therefore, we protest against everything not according to what we believe.

        Names means a lot and is what the person is to become as seen in the Bible plenty of times. So we label ourselves in a negative way and we live out our lives in a negative way, unintentionally.
        Originally posted by Gottmituns
        It's not protecting the rights of the 1%, it's IMPOSING new laws because of the 1%.

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        • #34
          RAMCLAP
          Veteran Member
          • Nov 2012
          • 2900

          If 498 years ago next week Pope Leo had just said, "yes Marty you're right". We would not be having this conversation. He did not. Place the blame where it lies.
          Psalm 103
          Mojave Lever Crew

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          • #35
            Not a Cook
            Senior Member
            • Mar 2013
            • 1684

            Originally posted by mif_slim
            Why are there so many denominations? Simple, we titled ourselves "protestants", to protest.

            Protest: a statement or action expressing disapproval of or objection to something.

            Therefore, we protest against everything not according to what we believe.

            Names means a lot and is what the person is to become as seen in the Bible plenty of times. So we label ourselves in a negative way and we live out our lives in a negative way, unintentionally.
            I'm curious: who (specifically) is this "we" of whom you speak?
            (You may find the brief information listed under the "Terminology" section on this wikipedia page interesting: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Protestantism)
            Regarding the 2nd Amendment:
            "...to disarm the people ― that was the best and most effectual way to enslave them." George Mason ("The Father of the Bill of Rights")

            Regarding Life and Death:
            "Do not fear those who kill the body but are unable to kill the soul; but rather fear Him who is able to destroy both soul and body in hell." Matthew 10:28

            The BIG question: "What shall I do then with Jesus which is called Christ?" Matthew 27:22b

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            • #36
              mif_slim
              I need a LIFE!!
              • Apr 2008
              • 10089

              Any denomination outside of Roman Catholic. I know and understand the terminology and its use, but it is what it is. If Luther did not "protest" against the church, the name on which he wished to be labeled as would be granted. But even then, it is still a protest because he would have to branch off of the church, which the only reason to do so was to protest. So either way, "we" who are not Roman Catholics are, "protestants" or "reformers".

              Even the term "reformer" is a negative label. We had to reform the church because it wasnt perfect. But we find plenty of times in Scriptures that Gods church IS a perfect church... its just filled with a lot of imperfect people. Haha.
              Originally posted by Gottmituns
              It's not protecting the rights of the 1%, it's IMPOSING new laws because of the 1%.

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              • #37
                WASR10
                • Aug 2011
                • 2455

                Originally posted by mif_slim
                Any denomination outside of Roman Catholic. I know and understand the terminology and its use, but it is what it is. If Luther did not "protest" against the church, the name on which he wished to be labeled as would be granted. But even then, it is still a protest because he would have to branch off of the church, which the only reason to do so was to protest. So either way, "we" who are not Roman Catholics are, "protestants" or "reformers". .
                Just to clarify, not being Catholic does not automatically make one a Protestant or Reformer. There is a Christian church that predates Roman Catholicism.

                Even the term "reformer" is a negative label. We had to reform the church because it wasnt perfect. But we find plenty of times in Scriptures that Gods church IS a perfect church... its just filled with a lot of imperfect people. Haha.
                It's a good thing that Believers have identified the imperfections made by man over the years and have attempted to rectify them. Many times, though, their effort has only taken the church farther away from the scriptures. Just as you have pointed out, this is how denominations are made.
                Mark 16:16

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                • #38
                  RAMCLAP
                  Veteran Member
                  • Nov 2012
                  • 2900

                  Originally posted by WASR10
                  Just to clarify, not being Catholic does not automatically make one a Protestant or Reformer. There is a Christian church that predates Roman Catholicism.



                  It's a good thing that Believers have identified the imperfections made by man over the years and have attempted to rectify them. Many times, though, their effort has only taken the church farther away from the scriptures. Just as you have pointed out, this is how denominations are made.
                  And many newer sects that came long after the Reformation are neither Reformed nor Protestant.
                  Psalm 103
                  Mojave Lever Crew

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                  • #39
                    mif_slim
                    I need a LIFE!!
                    • Apr 2008
                    • 10089

                    Yes, of course. Its just that the major two are Catholic and Protestant in Chruch history. Just like many like to think Luther was the first reformer when years before there were already others with the reformed idea. Im sure those ideas influenced Luther to his conclusion.
                    Originally posted by Gottmituns
                    It's not protecting the rights of the 1%, it's IMPOSING new laws because of the 1%.

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                    • #40
                      RAMCLAP
                      Veteran Member
                      • Nov 2012
                      • 2900

                      That is right on. Not only did it influence him, but everyone around him knew they had to hide him to prevent what happened to all the others before him.
                      Psalm 103
                      Mojave Lever Crew

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                      • #41
                        Red-Osier
                        Doesn't Abide
                        CGN Contributor - Lifetime
                        • Oct 2015
                        • 12284

                        Romans 16:16[/I]
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                        • #42
                          Red-Osier
                          Doesn't Abide
                          CGN Contributor - Lifetime
                          • Oct 2015
                          • 12284

                          Ignatius a.d. 110-117 pushed for one bishop. clement of rome earlier, but boniface in 606-607 was the first to assume the title of universal bishop which became known as the pope. when i hear rc claim that church is the first not so.
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