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  • iamnoone
    Banned
    • Jan 2014
    • 32

    Lee Baca

    Who thinks Lee Baca will be the next top law officer to go to jail?
  • #2
    bodger
    Calguns Addict
    • May 2009
    • 6016

    He'll skate away on this.

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    • #3
      RickD427
      CGN/CGSSA Contributor - Lifetime
      CGN Contributor - Lifetime
      • Jan 2007
      • 9264

      I'd be very surprised to see an indictment against Dr. Baca.

      He's been dis-associated from the daily operations of the department for quite some time. The former undersheriff actually ran the department with a pretty firm hand. Most members of the department saw two very different chains-of-command at the top for the past few years.

      The Baca chain-of-command spent more time looking outside of the department. He was very committed to spreading what he saw as the positive leadership initiatives of the department. He travelled a lot and really lost sight of what the department was doing. He was basically clueless and didn't figure things out until just a few months ago. But then it was far too late, and he was firmly established as ineffective. I do give him credit for finally realizing it and stepping down. I actually really like the man's values and principles, I've just been incredibly frustrated at his inability to put them into practice.

      The alternate chain-of-command led to the Undersheriff, It filled the void and placed a premium on crime fighting, and on personal loyalty to the Undersheriff. The Undersheriff had a lot of talent for running the department but, IMHO, did it with a shortsighted view that didn't give enough attention to the other, non crime-fighting, aspects of running a 17,000 person enterprise. I often saw him micro-managing crime fighting efforts while leaving significant enterprise management stuff to much lower-level managers.

      The shenanigans that produced the recent indictments are all products of the alternate chain-of-command. There have been 18 indictments against low-level "Fedayeen" members of the department, but the decisions that directed their conduct came from the top of the "alternate" chain-of-command.
      If you build a man a fire, you'll keep him warm for the evening. If you set a man on fire, you'll keep him warm for the rest of his life.

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      • #4
        JLM Ranger
        Member
        • Feb 2013
        • 277

        He will just drift away. The worst Sheriff La County has had. One dirty bastard. I jumped ship before the poop really hit the fan. I have several deputy friends and the rank and file couldn't stand him.

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        • #5
          fabtechprerunner
          Junior Member
          • Jan 2011
          • 39

          I highly recommend everyone to listen to the interview that KFI Am 640's John and Ken did with Tanaka today 1/21/14 @ 5:00pm. It's free, search = John and Ken on demand in itunes Podcast. It is on there podcast. It is down right laughable, what a clown. All of his responses = uhh uhhh, hmm........
          Last edited by fabtechprerunner; 01-21-2014, 8:34 PM.

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          • #6
            lavey29
            Senior Member
            • Nov 2012
            • 1126

            Originally posted by RickD427
            I'd be very surprised to see an indictment against Dr. Baca.

            He's been dis-associated from the daily operations of the department for quite some time. The former undersheriff actually ran the department with a pretty firm hand. Most members of the department saw two very different chains-of-command at the top for the past few years.

            The Baca chain-of-command spent more time looking outside of the department. He was very committed to spreading what he saw as the positive leadership initiatives of the department. He travelled a lot and really lost sight of what the department was doing. He was basically clueless and didn't figure things out until just a few months ago. But then it was far too late, and he was firmly established as ineffective. I do give him credit for finally realizing it and stepping down. I actually really like the man's values and principles, I've just been incredibly frustrated at his inability to put them into practice.

            The alternate chain-of-command led to the Undersheriff, It filled the void and placed a premium on crime fighting, and on personal loyalty to the Undersheriff. The Undersheriff had a lot of talent for running the department but, IMHO, did it with a shortsighted view that didn't give enough attention to the other, non crime-fighting, aspects of running a 17,000 person enterprise. I often saw him micro-managing crime fighting efforts while leaving significant enterprise management stuff to much lower-level managers.

            The shenanigans that produced the recent indictments are all products of the alternate chain-of-command. There have been 18 indictments against low-level "Fedayeen" members of the department, but the decisions that directed their conduct came from the top of the "alternate" chain-of-command.

            Interesting perspective

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            • #7
              Spec
              Member
              • Jun 2011
              • 303

              Originally posted by fabtechprerunner
              I highly recommend everyone to listen to the interview that KFI Am 640's John and Ken did with Tanaka today 1/21/14 @ 5:00pm. It's free, search = John and Ken on demand in itunes Podcast. It is on there podcast. It is down right laughable, what a clown. All of his responses = uhh uhhh, hmm........
              It was actually painful to listen to.

              As for Baca rumor has it he has cut a deal. I doubt there will be any publicity if he does plead to a lesser charge and it goes away.
              "You are at fault for questioning the approved narrative.".... Cannon

              Illegitimi non carborundum

              John 15:13


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              • #8
                x-007
                Member
                • Jul 2010
                • 115

                You've got to realize that Leroy Baca is a politician, and has gathered a lot of political clout through the years. "They" will take care of him as a favor BEFORE dumping him.

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                • #9
                  lavey29
                  Senior Member
                  • Nov 2012
                  • 1126

                  Will be interesting to find out. There obviously has to be some connection to his sudden announcement to step down which takes affect tomorrow which is his last day. I speculate that some substantial news may come out first or second week in February.

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                  • #10
                    Jimi Jah
                    I need a LIFE!!
                    • Jan 2014
                    • 18750

                    He will skate like Cardinal Mahoney. No one does time in LA except the unwashed masses.

                    He will enjoy his $290,000 per year retirement, courtesy of the stupid taxpayers.

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                    • #11
                      OlderThanDirt
                      FUBAR
                      CGN Contributor - Lifetime
                      • Jun 2009
                      • 5867

                      Baca worked for my father in Civil Division about 40 years ago. He didn't have anything nice to say about him then, and just got a little smile on his face when he heard that Baca was in trouble.
                      We know they are lying, they know they are lying, they know we know they are lying, we know they know we know they are lying, but they are still lying. ~ Solzhenitsyn
                      Thermidorian Reaction . . Prepare for it.

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                      • #12
                        TrailerparkTrash
                        Veteran Member
                        • Oct 2005
                        • 4249

                        Originally posted by Jimi Jah
                        He will skate like Cardinal Mahoney. No one does time in LA except the unwashed masses.
                        Boy isn't that the truth!!! Phoney-baloney-Mahoney, meet Caca-Baca!

                        Originally posted by Jimi Jah
                        He will enjoy his $290,000 per year retirement, courtesy of the stupid taxpayers.
                        Yup. I'm not even sure if that total is his "Sheriff" retirement or the combination of his Division "Chief's" + Sheriff's pension(s). Prior to him winning the first election as sheriff, he retired as a division chief with LASD. Ever since, he's been collection a Chief's pension plus his Sheriff salary.

                        I will say though that he was absolutely entitled to that chief's pension. Running as a politician and getting paid should never penalize anyone from collecting a retirement from a previous job.
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                        • #13
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                          • Sep 2007
                          • 9409

                          iamnoone will no longer be posting in the leo forum.

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                          • #14
                            CaptMike
                            Senior Member
                            • Jun 2006
                            • 1272

                            Thank you Sir.
                            A life is not important, except for the impact it has on other lives- Jackie Robinson

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                            • #15
                              katranch
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                              • Nov 2013
                              • 1246

                              Originally posted by retired
                              iamnoone will no longer be posting in the leo forum.
                              Yee-Haw !!
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