Proper Handcuff technique

[retired]

Since the OP has had his questions answered and the discussion has become more concerned with whether or not cuffing techniques should be posted or not, I believe the thread has served its purpose.

[Swatguy10_15]

Actually unless theres seomthing I am missing the suspect could or could not have her right wrist cuffed. Judging by the body language and position of his strong side/hand in correlation with hers. My moneys on the right wrist being cuffed.
As far as the methodology..It appears that he had her up against the car,hands on head etc.. Got the right wrist cuffed and she went cuckoo. Hes still in a good position as he can a) Put her head down to attempt to regain control or B)Bring her into him, and flip her to the left and "assist her to the ground".That confrontation would end very quickly.
Not saying that anyone directly has but armchair quarterbacking a snapshot? Also noting I dont see what is wrong with calikids perspective..Ok granted the info is out there..But why perpetuate it? Why assist in the dissemination of info? Seems kinda odd anybody would argue for that..except for those 3056'ers out there..They like that info..

[The Director]

A lot of information that people should not have is out there but why in the world would you want to help perpetuate that? How would you feel if I posted a step by step on how to pick hand cuffs? I sort of can't believe this is getting any push-back in a LEO forum.

There's like a hundred videos out there on how to do just that - pick handcuffs. And this isn't expressly a LEO forum...it is a subforum on a public forum which anyone can see or post in.

I am not a LEO, by the way. Nor have I been handcuffed (or arrested for that matter). Just simple curiosity on the pic I posted.

[Bryan16]

Here is the CHP method to handcuffing:

http://www.metacafe.com/watch/1595793/how_to_handcuff_someone/

I don't personally like this method because I prefer the double bars facing me to make it easier to double lock.

[CaliTheKid]

A lot of information that people should not have is out there but why in the world would you want to help perpetuate that? How would you feel if I posted a step by step on how to pick hand cuffs? I sort of can't believe this is getting any push-back in a LEO forum.

[The Director]

I think we should refrain from sharing actual step by step cuffing techniques in a public forum.

Why? Does knowing the cuffing techniques - of which there has to be several - give a would be criminal some sort of tactical advantage? I don't think so....not one bit. Not only can you get this on the internet you can learn it in person at any security guard school.

If a suspect wants to fight from having the cuffs put on he will do so, plain and simple.

[fal_762x51]

Anyone who has been arrested or detained more then once knows the procedure, it's not a secret.

You want me to take it down?

[MP301]

I think we should refrain from sharing actual step by step cuffing techniques in a public forum.

Thats silly. You can get this information all over the internet. And there are hidden camera videos of prison inmates training to defeat this stuff also on the internet....everything...is already out there...on the internet!

[nobody33]

There are no specific techniques in the real world for wrestling a belligerent drunk into handcuffs. I've seen and been trained on some of CHP's "misdemeanor" techniques. They are weird and don't work well IMHO. The region I work for stopped using those techniques years ago.

[CaliTheKid]

I think we should refrain from sharing actual step by step cuffing techniques in a public forum.

[fal_762x51]

This is how I was trained.

For non combative/cooperative people (dirty run down):

Face me, hands in the air, spread your fingers, turn around, put your hands behind your back with your thumbs up in the air. Move with bladed stance, take cuffs out with key holes up and holding the links with a top right hand fist (single strand pionted toward the suspect), shuffle toward the person, grab their right hand in put them into a control hold (bent wrist lock if I can remember the term), place cuff on right wrist (no slapping, just a constant pushing motion). Grab left hand/palm, still have your right top fist grab on the cuff links, place second cuff on left hand and then double lock the cuffs. Start pat-down search with right hand on the cuff links, transition to left hand top fist grab on cuffs to finish off the search.

For all other situations (most common to me):

Take the person down (takedown, O.C. taser, baton, etc) and get the damn things on anyway possible.

[The Director]

This officer, from what you can tell from a still photo, is calm and in control. Id like to see the video of this if there is one...

No vid that I know of - this pic was on the OC register web page.

[MP301]

It usually doesnt look as pretty as it does in training, but this CHiPee isnt doing it wrong. It looks to me like the cuff is either already on her wrist or is just about to go on. With women or guys with skinny wrists, sometimes you can cuff a bit higher up the arm.

If the cuff is on or makes it on, the next step will be to move his left hand from behind her neck to her left arm and spin her arms together to her back and cuff her left wrist. Her next trip will then be over the hood as he is finishing cuffing her.

Having his leg between hers effectively pins her to the car as well as stopping her side to side movement. Notice how she is on her tip toes which reduces her effectivness to resist...cant get much traction if your weight is of the ground.

This officer, from what you can tell from a still photo, is calm and in control. Id like to see the video of this if there is one...

Saw this on the news this morning....I guess this woman was DUI and was being arrested after crashing her car in a solo accident on the freeway. The cop seems to be having a little trouble here...not that a belligerent drunk wouldn't be trouble.

I'm curious as to his technique here. Her right hand is cuffed and he seems to have her in a half nelson...what's the next step in the process? Why is his leg jammed into hers like that?

I'm a martial artist so I know all moves have a meaning....just looking for the "methodology" on this one....

[retired]

sgtbuck, I recall one like that when I was a cadet and on my week ride along. It was a 5150 call and the guy was standing behind the driveway wide gate at his home. The handling leo would order him to show his hands, but he would only show one at a time. (Tho dangerous, it was actually sort of funny, but you had to be there).

After a few minutes of this, he finally ran thru a door on the side of the garage (a converted bedroom). About 5 deputies ran inside to cuff him and he fought them all. The officer I was with ordered me to stay outside with him as it was too crowded. Right after that, a deputy broke the nose of another deputy as he reared back with his baton. Seems the Yawara handle hit him in the nose on the backswing.

The deputy I was with said, "See what I mean."

They finally got him cuffed, but he was really wild.

[sgtbuck]

When someone resists arrest it never looks pretty like in training. I had many suspects that were very cooperative that would all of a sudden resist when they would hear the first click of the cuff on there wrist. You can never drop your guard and must be ready for anything.

I was at one scene that it took five Officers to get the guy in cuffs. This was after he seriously injured two Officers. One of the injured Officers had to have his jaw wired shut and spent a week in the hospital. Batons, pepper spay nothing worked. It just pissed him off. We did not have tasers in those days. I am also very sure had it been video taped we would have all been in DS because it did not look good us trying to arrest this guy. We did what we had to and gained control of the situation.