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  • #16
    hermosabeach
    I need a LIFE!!
    • Feb 2009
    • 19517

    Originally posted by magsnubs
    Thanks everyone. I realized that the CFARS open in edge, but not chrome.
    The wife was arrested, not the owner of the guns. She was not given any info upon bailing out. No restraining orders. 7 guns, 4 not registered. Seems like they must be registered to get them back. Not sure of the status because they were acquired decades ago, legally of course. But not registered. Super nice stuff too.

    Now, there's a new problem. Registered letter from police lists the shotgun as having a 16" barrel. Not sure if that's going to be an issue. It's certainly not a 16" barrel. 26, I think. When it gets reported to DOJ, I hope it's not a problem if owner says 26" and cops say 16" as there is no permit for a short barreled shotgun.

    BTW, this site was not opening for me all day either, in edge or chrome. Thanks again.
    16" shotgun is an SBS... aka sawed off shotgun as the fed limit is 18" for shotgun


    Another reason to have a safe- where only you have the combo


    And you need a lawyer.. Are you filing for divorce? Staying with someone who attacked you? Legal Guidance is something to consider...

    Men get locked up and lose all freedom and careers often.... This will cost you a lot more than your collection
    Rule 1- ALL GUNS ARE ALWAYS LOADED

    Rule 2 -NEVER LET THE MUZZLE COVER ANYTHING YOU ARE NOT PREPARED TO DESTROY (including your hands and legs)

    Rule 3 -KEEP YOUR FINGER OFF THE TRIGGER UNTIL YOUR SIGHTS ARE ON THE TARGET

    Rule 4 -BE SURE OF YOUR TARGET AND WHAT IS BEYOND IT
    (thanks to Jeff Cooper)

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    • #17
      RickD427
      CGN/CGSSA Contributor - Lifetime
      CGN Contributor - Lifetime
      • Jan 2007
      • 9266

      There a lot going on in this thread, and some of it hard to respond to because of the "theoretical" nature of the OP's question.

      The first thing to get straight is why were the weapons seized? If they were seized as evidence of a crime, plan on them remaining in custody until the case is resolved. If they were seized as being at the scene of domestic violence and found pursuant to a lawful search (refer to Penal Code section 18250), you can get them back as soon as 48 hours, provided that you complete the Law Enforcement Gun Release (LEGR )process (and there ain't no way you can do that in 48 hours).

      The real problem is completing the LEGR process. That requires that the weapons be listed in your name within California's Automated Firearms System.
      If you build a man a fire, you'll keep him warm for the evening. If you set a man on fire, you'll keep him warm for the rest of his life.

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      • #18
        Nego
        Banned
        • Jan 2026
        • 418

        The red flag laws are tough. I had cancer and was having a tremendous amount of pain. My doctors instead of helping me manage my pain snitched me out to the shrinks and the cops and they took all my **** for 5 years. I just got all my gear back in January. I understand the concept behind red flag laws but normal people get screwed it just is going to happen. I do have to say though not only were teh doj cops that came and seized all my **** cool but when I got them all back they were super helpful in helping me fill out all the paperwork and stuff and when i went to pick em up they were super cool too. Sucks to have to enforce rules like that so I'm not gonna bash them for just doin their jobs. I had originally just thought I would have to have a freind take possession for a couple months and kept em. They coulda jammed me up for not turning em in and didn't so small favors there. I did lose my exposed permit and ccw and had to reapply and go thru all that bs again though
        Last edited by Nego; 05-29-2026, 7:17 AM.

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        • #19
          splithoof
          Calguns Addict
          • May 2015
          • 5792

          Originally posted by Nego
          The red flag laws are tough. I had cancer and was having a tremendous amount of pain. My doctors instead of helping me manage my pain snitched me out to the shrinks and the cops and they took all my **** for 5 years. I just got all my gear back in January. I understand the concept behind red flag laws but normal people get screwed it just is going to happen. I do have to say though not only were teh doj cops that came and seized all my **** cool but when I got them all back they were super helpful in helping me fill out all the paperwork and stuff and when i went to pick em up they were super cool too. Sucks to have to enforce rules like that so I'm not gonna bash them for just doin their jobs. I had originally just thought I would have to have a freind take possession for a couple months and kept em. They coulda jammed me up for not turning em in and didn't so small favors there. I did lose my exposed permit and ccw and had to reapply and go thru all that bs again though
          That really blows, and is a good lesson: if possible, have a way to quickly move important items to a secure state.
          Q: did your doctor have prior knowledge of your firearm ownership?…and if so why?
          Last edited by splithoof; 05-29-2026, 3:50 PM.

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          • #20
            Nego
            Banned
            • Jan 2026
            • 418

            Originally posted by splithoof
            That really blows, and is a good lesson: if possible, have a way to quickly move important items to a secure state.
            Q: did your doctor have prior knowledge of your firearm ownership?…and if so why?
            Well, they always ask you your occupation so. In general they knew my job but I never talked about my firearms or licenses. Th3y put me in a 3 day hold and as soon as the psych doctors realized it was just a pain management issue they kicked me loose. Most of those three days were me waiting to go to another facility. I was only in the crazy place for a day. I was beyond pissed

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            • #21
              splithoof
              Calguns Addict
              • May 2015
              • 5792

              Originally posted by Nego

              Well, they always ask you your occupation so. In general they knew my job but I never talked about my firearms or licenses. Th3y put me in a 3 day hold and as soon as the psych doctors realized it was just a pain management issue they kicked me loose. Most of those three days were me waiting to go to another facility. I was only in the crazy place for a day. I was beyond pissed
              I was, as I am now, very evasive when doctors start to ask questions not directly related to the purpose of my visit. Although I had a long career as a fireman for a large public agency, often when I would visit my HMO Kaiser, I simply said I worked in the finance industry, auditing banking deposits for a popular mortgage lender. It never went beyond an “OK, sounds good”. When my department placed me on medical leave and started the long, arduous process of becoming a professional patient, I used WC doctors that the lawyers picked. No HMO for that. No doctor ever asked about anything gun-related, and I didn’t volunteer. And NO, I never filed a PTSD claim despite what I had been exposed to over a long career, so there was no red-flag with that either.

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              • #22
                RickD427
                CGN/CGSSA Contributor - Lifetime
                CGN Contributor - Lifetime
                • Jan 2007
                • 9266

                Originally posted by Nego

                Well, they always ask you your occupation so. In general they knew my job but I never talked about my firearms or licenses. Th3y put me in a 3 day hold and as soon as the psych doctors realized it was just a pain management issue they kicked me loose. Most of those three days were me waiting to go to another facility. I was only in the crazy place for a day. I was beyond pissed
                You may want to do some research on this. From the context of what you posted it sound like you wound up on a WIC 5150 hold. There are three categories of such holds: 1) You were considered as a "Danger to Self", 2) You were considered as a "Danger to Others. and 3) You were considered as "Gravely Disabled". The distinction between the three categories carries a lot of significance with regard to firearms. If the docs signed on the "Danger to Self" or "Danger to Others" categories, you incur a five year prohibition on the possession of firearms. There is a provision for you to request a court to restore your firearms rights. If the docs signed off on the "Gravely Disabled" category, then there is no firearms prohibition. But a lot of folks in the mental health and court systems don't fully understand the distinction and treat all 5150 cases as being firearms prohibiting.
                If you build a man a fire, you'll keep him warm for the evening. If you set a man on fire, you'll keep him warm for the rest of his life.

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