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  • dvonrock
    Junior Member
    • Jun 2025
    • 8

    Intra-familial transfer saga

    For background, my elderly parents are downsizing their household and gave me their handguns (a mix of wheel guns and semi-autos) when I visited them in NorCal for Independence Day.

    I mailed intra-familial transfer forms and a check to DOJ July 28. They cashed the check at the beginning of September.

    Then, on September 5, I received a letter from DOJ requesting additional information—i.e., pictures—about the semi-autos, which cites California’s “assault weapon” statute as the basis. But, it’s clear from the letter DOJ wants to check for threaded barrels. The other thing I noticed is that the letter seems to be generic/boilerplate text, because it ask for a picture with the slide of a Beretta 950 locked back, which is, of course, mechanically impossible. My takeaway is that DOJ requests pictures anytime you file an intra-familial transfer notice for a semiautomatic.

    I spoke to an analyst on September 9 for additional information, clarification, and instructions about where/how to send pictures. (I have seen some advice on Cal Guns saying to ignore these requests; but see below.) Per DOJ’s instructions, I emailed the requested pictures on September 11.

    On October 27, I received a letter from DOJ confirming the revolvers are now registered in my name and the AFS is updated accordingly.

    But, on October 30, I received another letter from DOJ stating that my “request” for an intra-familial transfer of the semi-autos was “rejected” for not providing the requested information which, again, cites the “assault weapon” statute. So, it seems, the current situation is that, if DOJ asks for and you do not provide pictures, they will not process intra-familial transfers.

    On October 31, I spoke to someone else at DOJ, who verified that they received my September 11 email and implied the the “rejection” was a clerical error because the first person I spoke to had not processed my email such that it was linked to my original hardcopy application forms and associated request for additional information.

    I am still waiting to see if DOJ processes the remaining paperwork …
  • #2
    echo1
    Veteran Member
    • Apr 2010
    • 3892

    Bastigages! Pax
    You need a crew

    "A free people should be armed and disciplined" (George Washington),

    Our Constitution was made only for a moral and religious people. It is wholly inadequate to the government of any other.~John Adams 1798

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    • #3
      Rumblemonkey
      Member
      • Nov 2017
      • 450

      Hmmm...Not a positive story of paperwork transfers! I have been "getting my affairs in order" and am trying to assure the handguns and rifles I have can be transferred OUT of Calif. to a relative in Virginia if/when I pass. Hopefully transferring OUT of Calif. will be a bit easier than trying to transfer IN! What steps can I take ahead of time to smooth this process out? I assume FFL to FFL is a must? Probably about 7 or so handguns, maybe 5 or so rifles, a couple of C&R's. Shipping? Ammo too? Please advise if possible. Thanks!

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      • #4
        BAJ475
        Calguns Addict
        • Jul 2014
        • 5135

        Originally posted by Rumblemonkey
        Hmmm...Not a positive story of paperwork transfers! I have been "getting my affairs in order" and am trying to assure the handguns and rifles I have can be transferred OUT of Calif. to a relative in Virginia if/when I pass. Hopefully transferring OUT of Calif. will be a bit easier than trying to transfer IN! What steps can I take ahead of time to smooth this process out? I assume FFL to FFL is a must? Probably about 7 or so handguns, maybe 5 or so rifles, a couple of C&R's. Shipping? Ammo too? Please advise if possible. Thanks!
        I don't think that a local CA FFL is a must, but a good idea. In my experience FFLs get better shipping rates, understand what is required. Makes the process easier.

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        • #5
          splithoof
          Calguns Addict
          • May 2015
          • 5705

          When I’m gone, all my personal possessions (particularly any firearms, ammunition, etc.) will be “in the wind”. No plans at this point to involve the communists that run government.

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          • #6
            HYPURR
            Member
            • Feb 2013
            • 462

            Instead of your stuff "in the wind" why not consider me as the next Steward in line??? Ima good home have the right policital affilations, room aty the inn and a all around good guy. LMK what else yuou need to facilitate this. Standing by. Best, Dave

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            • #7
              Rumblemonkey
              Member
              • Nov 2017
              • 450

              "in the wind" has such a nice sound! Hopefully no probate, no govt. fingers in the pie! For me, my executor/trustee will be able to take care of my stuff without too much hassle!

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              • #8
                dvonrock
                Junior Member
                • Jun 2025
                • 8

                Update: I spoke to an analyst at DOJ in early November 2025 and explained the situation. She found my email with the requested pictures and said they would process the “additional information” which, apparently, the first analyst I spoke had not done. In late December 2025, I received letters saying the semi-autos were now under my name in the AFS. Overall, this was a giant headache.

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                • #9
                  dvonrock
                  Junior Member
                  • Jun 2025
                  • 8

                  Originally posted by krypto99
                  From my understanding there is no law requiring you give pictures. Tell them to process the paperwork without pictures.
                  The IFT statute doesn’t require pictures, but DOJ’s firearms bureau is empowered by statute with certain investigatory powers. Basically, if you don’t want to play their game, you can sue, but I have no time for that.

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