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  • #46
    stix213
    AKA: Joe Censored
    CGN Contributor - Lifetime
    • Apr 2009
    • 18998



    Originally posted by vincewarde
    Getting back to the OP's original post, IMHO what is going on is simple. DOJ is playing a numbers game. They want to be able to seize a high number of firearms with as little risk as possible. Clearly, this is most easily done by targeting otherwise law abiding people who may not have even understood they were not allowed to own firearms. High threat individuals, people most of us would probably agree should not have guns, are much more dangerous and take more time to hunt down. The goal is to hold a news conference and announce that X number of guns have been taken from X number of prohibited persons. The higher number that X is, the better they will look.

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    • #47
      Fishslayer
      In Memoriam
      • Jan 2010
      • 13035

      Originally posted by wchutt
      I understand politicians who only care for money and power, but I have always wondered how the DOJ and ATF can find so MANY LEOs and vets who are willing to break their oath of service/ oath of affirmation and enforce laws which clearly are contrary to the Constitution. The bell curve says there will always be some bad apples, but that the DOJ and ATF seems to have no problem finding so many of these people is both sad and scary.
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      Originally Posted by JackRydden224
      I hope Ruger pays the extortion fees for the SR1911. I mean the gun is just as good if not better than a Les Baer.
      Originally posted by redcliff
      A Colt collector shooting Rugers is like Hugh Grant cheating on Elizabeth Hurley with a hooker.

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      • #48
        chris
        I need a LIFE!!
        • Apr 2006
        • 19447

        Originally posted by Noble Cause
        Emphasis mine.

        If what you suspect is true, this does not surprise me in the least.

        The money for the program was basically stolen from gunowners when the
        Excessive fees we're not returned to the people forced to pay them, or at the
        very least, a reduction in said fees to match the actual cost of dros program.

        It's all part of California politicians assault upon the Second Amendment .

        It's not about reducing actual danger to the public, it's about only giving the
        appearance of doing so.

        In other words using our money against us, by using a program that anti gun
        politicians can use to say they are tough on crime, then get political goodwill
        from the general public to support more attacks on our rights.


        Noble
        it has always been about an all out assault on 2A period. we know that real criminals have guns and I cannot imagine LE does not either. if they went after them instead of someone that committed a crime before some of these officers were born it would be better. but it looks better when they can say we disarmed dangerous criminals when in truth its not.

        I have personal experience of the APPS being done and I it was not me.

        Originally posted by Untamed1972
        Well the state legislature passed a bill authorizing the use of those funds for this program. So on that level it's not illegal......but the question remains was it legal for them pass a law authorizing that in the first place, or does doing so violate some other provision of law protecting the DROS funds from such use.
        we know they don't care about the legality of it they just do what ever they want and whatever the political winds are blowing that day.

        was it right? not NO but F NO. but they did it and there is no public outcry since gun owners in this state are a sub human class to them
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