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  • AxonGap
    Member
    • May 2005
    • 329

    Pistol Grip Alternative?

    Since the fixed mag portion of the DOJ memo is a lightning rod issue perhaps we should start giving more alternatives to the pistol grip dilemma. Threw this idea together pretty quick so the scale might be a bit off. I'm a noob at posting so critique away! Note the the thumb rest.

    See Revision 2 if you think it looks too much like a thumbhole stock

    ***Another revision 3b is detached from the stock. 3a would be integrated.
    Last edited by AxonGap; 08-25-2006, 4:24 PM.
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    blacklisted
    Veteran Member
    • Oct 2005
    • 2608

    It's a thumbhole stock.

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    • #3
      magmaster
      Member
      • Mar 2006
      • 200

      Can't have a thumbhole stock either unfortunately

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      • #4
        AxonGap
        Member
        • May 2005
        • 329

        The hole is basically for looks and not integral to the stock's function. The thumb rest would be for primary grip. Also, would'nt the holes location above the imaginary lame (I mean line) be within the parameters? If you take a closer look you would have to have an enormous hand to achieve that grip. Modify away!

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        • #5
          kenc9
          Senior Member
          • Apr 2003
          • 1774

          If it were a thumb socket and not a thumb hole would work. Just something to grip on to, I am sure if things stay the same these will start coming out.

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          • #6
            adamsreeftank
            Senior Member
            • Jan 2006
            • 2244

            Originally posted by AxonGap
            The hole is basically for looks and not integral to the stock's function. The thumb rest would be for primary grip. Also, would'nt the holes location above the imaginary lame (I mean line) be within the parameters? If you take a closer look you would have to have an enormous hand to achieve that grip. Modify away!
            Why take a chance for looks. YOUR hand doesn't need to be able to put the thumb in. The DOJ has an agent with REALLY long fingers they use for that kind of test. Just like their agent with REALLY strong hands who can twist off a nut that has been locktighted in place. (I think their names are Long-Fingers McGee and Iron-Hands Jones, and they used to be in the circus.)

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            • #7
              AxonGap
              Member
              • May 2005
              • 329

              Originally posted by kenc9
              If it were a thumb socket and not a thumb hole would work. Just something to grip on to, I am sure if things stay the same these will start coming out.

              -ken
              It's more or less a thumb socket. I'm trying to use the idea of a more traditional rifle stock whithout making it feel too awkward. Look's is another issue.

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              • #8
                AxonGap
                Member
                • May 2005
                • 329

                Originally posted by adamsreeftank
                Why take a chance for looks. YOUR hand doesn't need to be able to put the thumb in. The DOJ has an agent with REALLY long fingers they use for that kind of test. Just like their agent with REALLY strong hands who can twist off a nut that has been locktighted in place. (I think their names are Long-Fingers McGee and Iron-Hands Jones, and they used to be in the circus.)
                That would be a feat. I think they use chimpanzees in there testing facility.

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                • #9
                  Fate
                  Calguns Addict
                  • Apr 2006
                  • 9545

                  With the thumb rest on the side, it will work. However you just need to delete the hole thru the middle. If it's one piece and not a bolt on addition to a regular stock, you might have something.
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                  • #10
                    AxonGap
                    Member
                    • May 2005
                    • 329

                    Originally posted by bdgfate
                    With the thumb rest on the side, it will work. However you just need to delete the hole thru the middle. If it's one piece and not a bolt on addition to a regular stock, you might have something.
                    This would be one piece.

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                    • #11
                      AxonGap
                      Member
                      • May 2005
                      • 329

                      Update!

                      Removed the hole. Still tapers for a thumb indent.
                      Last edited by AxonGap; 08-25-2006, 4:24 PM.

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                      • #12
                        joebob
                        Junior Member
                        • Jul 2005
                        • 38

                        looks interesting

                        While you're at it, can you make the buttplate and cheekplate adjustable?

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                        • #13
                          grammaton76
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                          • Dec 2005
                          • 9511

                          Originally posted by joebob
                          While you're at it, can you make the buttplate and cheekplate adjustable?
                          Folks have been a bit scared about adjustable buttplates on AR's, as the DOJ might be able to call that a telescoping stock.

                          The cheekpad, I wouldn't worry about, and something which can accept differently-sized rubber endpads, I wouldn't be worried about. But there may be a point re: the telescoping / adjustable buttplate.
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                          • #14
                            AxonGap
                            Member
                            • May 2005
                            • 329

                            Originally posted by joebob
                            While you're at it, can you make the buttplate and cheekplate adjustable?
                            No problem. I'll just slap em around a few times!

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                            • #15
                              AxonGap
                              Member
                              • May 2005
                              • 329

                              Originally posted by grammaton76
                              Folks have been a bit scared about adjustable buttplates on AR's, as the DOJ might be able to call that a telescoping stock.

                              The cheekpad, I wouldn't worry about, and something which can accept differently-sized rubber endpads, I wouldn't be worried about. But there may be a point re: the telescoping / adjustable buttplate.
                              This would be based on a standard AR buttstock. The main crux of this is the angle of the wrist in conjunction w/ the trigger! It's all about ergonomics, and I think it could be done on these wayward lowers. We should concentrate on a supplement to the pistol grip issue in order to make a safer firearm. Removable is the way it was meant to be!!

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