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  • #31
    ap3572001
    Calguns Addict
    • Jun 2007
    • 6039

    Our politicians could care less about citizens , cops, retired cops etc.

    THEY ONLY CARE ABOUT THEIR POLITICAL AGENDA!

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    • #32
      ArcherDog
      Senior Member
      • Feb 2012
      • 808

      Originally posted by BluNorthern
      It's not the same. The legislators will grant them exemptions to appease them and we will be left hanging.
      This. Will LEO's stand up and say "Exemptions aren't good enough for me and my brethren. Everyone deserves hi cap mags, so either let everyone have them or let none have them"? I doubt it. LEO's might have a dog in this fight right now, but I don't see them sticking around when they get what they want/
      Ian Lindsay
      Tracy, CA

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      • #33
        1recluse
        CGN/CGSSA Contributor
        CGN Contributor
        • Sep 2010
        • 419

        NO! Now they are uniting us. Before, when they excluded LEO's, they were dividing us. I appreciate the unification. Welcome to our World!


        Originally posted by flyer898
        Peace Officers and Retired Peace Officers are our natural allies in this fight. We need to welcome them. All of us who own, or wish to own firearms are in the same boat. The goal of those we are fighting is to divide us, and incrementally, baby step by baby step, continue until we are all disarmed.

        Unless we realize this and hang together, we will all hang separately.

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        • #34
          giantsfan650
          Member
          • May 2010
          • 154

          To hell with special treatment for retired LEOs. They are civilians now, as are all (most, I should say) of us.

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          • #35
            POLICESTATE
            I need a LIFE!!
            • Apr 2009
            • 18185

            Originally posted by ap3572001
            Our politicians could care less about citizens , cops, retired cops etc.

            THEY ONLY CARE ABOUT THEIR POLITICAL AGENDA!
            I'm sure in the politicians' eyes dead retired cops produce almost as much political capital as dead children.
            -POLICESTATE,
            In the name of the State, and of the School, and of the Infallible Science


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            Government Official Lies
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            • #36
              BluNorthern
              I need a LIFE!!
              • Mar 2010
              • 10236

              Originally posted by Calplinker
              No, they can no longer grant exemptions for retired LEO.

              Are you incapable of reading? Go back to post #1.
              Our legislators will get their agenda through regardless of what the 'rules' are. They make the rules and the laws as they see fit to further their end game, and will amend and change whatever they want to accomplish that, regardless.

              Are you incapable of seeing that?
              "I don't do these things to other people, and I require the same from them."

              Gun control is like trying to reduce drunk driving by making it tougher for sober people to own cars.

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              • #37
                Calplinker
                Banned
                • Jun 2011
                • 1610

                Once again, exempting retired LEO is off the table. They cant do it.

                This is about getting the word out about this and killing the bill.

                STOP with the childish attacks on retired LEO.

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                • #38
                  curtisfong
                  Calguns Addict
                  • Jan 2009
                  • 6893

                  Originally posted by cleonard
                  The thing that really irritates me is that Steve Strull seems to only be concerned about retired law enforcement. There is zero concern about the citizens of this state.
                  Yep. Chilling, yet predictable.
                  The Rifle on the WallKamala Harris

                  Lawyers and their Stockholm Syndrome

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                  • #39
                    phiya
                    Junior Member
                    • Oct 2008
                    • 46

                    While I agree with the sentiment that LEOs should not be a protected class, I think many LEOs are merely at the mercy of the unions. They have no choice but to join, and whether or not they agree with what the unions do is irrelevant to to them most of the time.

                    LEOs really need to start paying attention to what the unions do, because I do think for the most part, at least those officers that aren't in the upper ends of the political game that is played, don't agree with what these unions do. Problem is they like the support the union offers in terms of pay and benefits and often aren't willing to do anything for fear of losing that. It's a shame.
                    Originally posted by tankarian
                    The pipeline carrying stupid gun owners had burst on this forum.
                    Here is how their "logic" works: "Thank you Gov. Brown for anally raping me with a baseball bat instead of a two by four. You are so nice and caring, I appreciate you being so gentle"

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                    • #40
                      huntercf
                      Veteran Member
                      • Aug 2011
                      • 3114

                      Originally posted by Ronin2
                      I agree...the California LEO community has abandoned the RKBA /2nd amendment becuase they always were a "special class" and thought they were above it... well they arent and it is about time that they begin to pay the price for all thier apathy and selling the rest of us down the river.

                      In fact, without the endosements and campaign contributions of LOE unions statewide, all these weak on crime/pro felon democrats would never get elected or reelcted. The CA LEO community has selfishly voted their wallets and not the constitution.
                      Agreed, I would take this a step further. I don't think LEO retired or NOT should be allowed anything we are not. I'm not a cop basher, I have friends that are in LE and I think they should have all the tools necessary to do their jobs and come home safely, but I also believe that WE should have the same tools to live our lives and come home safely.

                      If they need the weapons to fight some 'war in the streets' then we need them as well because we are also in the SAME streets!

                      Where does it say in the constitution that separate classes of citizens have more rights than others? Listen up nazis, there is a reason there isn't!!!
                      Gun control is a 1" group at 500 yds!

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                      • #41
                        mag360
                        Calguns Addict
                        • Jun 2009
                        • 5198

                        Tell PORAC to quit throwing us under the bus.

                        AW exemption
                        Roster exemption
                        Buy <10 rd mags
                        Carry exemptions
                        ...

                        I do want 396 stopped tho just like you.
                        just happy to be here. I like talking about better ways to protect ourselves.

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                        • #42
                          truthseeker
                          Senior Member
                          • Apr 2008
                          • 1546

                          I am sad to say the Steinberg is the senator for my district.

                          I didn't vote for him, but I told him in the email that he needs to quit wasting tax payer dollars on bills like SB396.

                          I informed him that he needs to get back to his job and he can start by authoring bills to fix the economy and job market.

                          I can't believe that these Government workers are getting hounded everyday to fix gun control and not getting hounded to fix the economy or job market!

                          As far as I am concerned, if this passes, I am going on a mission to try and get everyone at my church, every teacher my wife is friends with, and every Government worker I know to not vote for him next election!
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                          • #43
                            BluNorthern
                            I need a LIFE!!
                            • Mar 2010
                            • 10236

                            I believe he terms out next election.

                            Originally posted by truthseeker
                            I am sad to say the Steinberg is the senator for my district.

                            I didn't vote for him, but I told him in the email that he needs to quit wasting tax payer dollars on bills like SB396.

                            I informed him that he needs to get back to his job and he can start by authoring bills to fix the economy and job market.

                            I can't believe that these Government workers are getting hounded everyday to fix gun control and not getting hounded to fix the economy or job market!

                            As far as I am concerned, if this passes, I am going on a mission to try and get everyone at my church, every teacher my wife is friends with, and every Government worker I know to not vote for him next election!
                            "I don't do these things to other people, and I require the same from them."

                            Gun control is like trying to reduce drunk driving by making it tougher for sober people to own cars.

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                            • #44
                              truthseeker
                              Senior Member
                              • Apr 2008
                              • 1546

                              Originally posted by BluNorthern
                              I believe he terms out next election.
                              GREAT!!
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                              • #45
                                morfeeis
                                Calguns Addict
                                • Apr 2010
                                • 7605

                                Originally posted by WyattandDoc
                                The reason why I posted this was to show we are the same as eveyone else. But reality is (was) we are/were capacity exempt. For them to change that shows how phychotic things are getting. I'm very serious about not being treated differently just cause I chose a certain profession, so knock the chips off your shoulders, we're all in this together.
                                This being Calguns i'm sure many have already called you out on this, but i didn't want to pass this up. So they are only psychotic when they come after you, but when they did it to us lowly non leo's it was cool?? and we have a chip on our shoulder?
                                ΜΟΛΩΝ ΛΑΒΕ
                                Originally posted by Ayn Rand
                                You seek escape from pain. We seek the achievement of happiness. You exist for the sake of avoiding punishment. We exist for the sake of earning rewards. Threats will not make us function; fear is not our incentive. It is not death we wish to avoid, but life that we wish to live.

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