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Six Democrats Voted Against SB-374 - Three Democrats Abstain
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If by thank you mean to warn them to not waver from this position, otherwise they will face recall. I support that kind of thank you."Government, even in its best state, is but a necessary evil; in its worst state, an intolerable one."
- Thomas Paine, Common Sense
"To argue with a person who has renounced the use of reason is like administering medicine to the dead."
- Thomas Paine, The CrisisComment
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I agree with your first sentence, therefore I find your 2nd sentence ridiculous.I think that the abstainers were most likely held in reserve and allowed an NVR with the understanding that not taking a position on this bill would allow them straddle the fence with voters. No matter the outcome or motive, we should call and thank these Democrats for trying to stand with us in this fight.
If you only abstained so you could lie to your constituents (by pretending to be pro-2A, and you would have not been allowed to abstain had the vote been closer) then you are the worst manner of evil, and if any actually did this, I wish them an agonizing death.

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Point well taken, Speed, but my focus was really upon thanking those who were willing to make a "No" vote and stand with us - not so much the abstainers. I should have made that clear in my post.I agree with your first sentence, therefore I find your 2nd sentence ridiculous.
If you only abstained so you could lie to your constituents (by pretending to be pro-2A, and you would have not been allowed to abstain had the vote been closer) then you are the worst manner of evil, and if any actually did this, I wish them an agonizing death.Comment
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The reason why we need a split in the State of California.
This is just further proof why we need to split the state of California into a free region and a captive region. The rural areas tend to be more conservative and the urban regions more liberal, that is, with the exception of most of southern California, including Orange County. Counties to the extreme north of San Francisco also would be separated/freed from the bindings of liberal control. Let them (the liberals
) have the coastal region from L.A. to just one county north of San Francisco. They can then be happy controlling all those people and just leave us alone.
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4 of the 6 are from socal. Are you talking about an East West split? Gerrymandering?This is just further proof why we need to split the state of California into a free region and a captive region. The rural areas tend to be more conservative and the urban regions more liberal, that is, with the exception of most of southern California, including Orange County. Counties to the extreme north of San Francisco also would be separated/freed from the bindings of liberal control. Let them (the liberals
) have the coastal region from L.A. to just one county north of San Francisco. They can then be happy controlling all those people and just leave us alone.Comment
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Good info OP. I thank every person that voted in opposition to this bill, period, regardless of party. I understand there's often way more to it than that, still, I've got to take it at face value because I can't unwind that tangled web they weave up there in Sacramento.
Also, for those interested, I posted the excerpt of this vote up:
Posted yesterday's portion of the ASSembly floor vote regarding SB 374:
These are the folks who spoke against SB 374 for us. Add them to the list of folks who deserve a thank you from us!
Tim Donnelly
15900 Smoketree Street Suite 100
Hesperia, CA 92345
Marie Waldron
350 West 5th Avenue, Suite 110
Escondido, CA 92025
Melissa A Melendez
41391 Kalmia Street, Suite 220
Murrieta, CA 92562
Jim Patterson
6245 N. Fresno Street, Suite #106
Fresno, CA 93710
Shannon L. Grove
4900 California Ave., Suite 100B
Bakersfield, CA 93309
Travis Allen
17011 Beach Blvd, Suite 1120
Huntington Beach, CA 92647Last edited by readysetgo; 09-11-2013, 12:03 PM.Stand up and be counted, or lay down and be mounted... -Mac

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While its good some democrats voted against this tyrannical bill, I can't help but wonder if they could have somehow blocked it ?
Would the democrat leadership have pulled the entire thing if those 9 threatened to run as republicans ?
Personally I believe theses democrats voted against it because their votes didnt matter !
Gun owners should hold the democrat party responsible and vow to unelect these gun grabbers.
Looks like 42 in favor 29 opposed
Jones Sawyers really made a fool of himself !Last edited by ja308; 09-11-2013, 12:36 PM.Comment
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good to hear some of these lawmakers stand up in opposition.Good info OP. I thank every person that voted in opposition to this bill, period, regardless of party. I understand there's often way more to it than that, still, I've got to take it at face value because I can't unwind that tangled web they weave up there in Sacramento.
Also, for those interested, I posted the excerpt of this vote up:
Posted yesterday's portion of the ASSembly floor vote regarding SB 374:
These are the folks who spoke against SB 374 for us. Add them to the list of folks who deserve a thank you from us!
Tim Donnelly
15900 Smoketree Street Suite 100
Hesperia, CA 92345
Marie Waldron
350 West 5th Avenue, Suite 110
Escondido, CA 92025
Melissa A Melendez
41391 Kalmia Street, Suite 220
Murrieta, CA 92562
Jim Patterson
6245 N. Fresno Street, Suite #106
Fresno, CA 93710
Shannon L. Grove
4900 California Ave., Suite 100B
Bakersfield, CA 93309
Travis Allen
17011 Beach Blvd, Suite 1120
Huntington Beach, CA 92647
but the same old mantra of "we have to do something" is getting old and the facts that this law like many will do nothing.http://govnews.ca.gov/gov39mail/mail.php
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Thank your neighbor and fellow gun owners for passing Prop 63. For that gun control is a winning legislative agenda.
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contact the governor
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In Memory of Spc Torres May 5th 2006 al-Hillah, Iraq. I will miss you my friend.
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Democrats are never friendly to the 2A. Never!"The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants."
Thomas Jefferson.Comment
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Does anyone recall during the national ccw reciprocity vote, where a couple of congress members waited until Harry Reid assured them that the bill would not pass, only then voted for the bill to get the NRA rating?
I wish some of these folks could have been on the committees that could have stopped it before it even reached the floor.Last edited by CalNRA; 09-11-2013, 1:19 PM.Originally posted by cvigueThis is not rocket surgery.Comment
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If just one of these three would have voted NO, we wouldn't have this mess. It passed by 1 vote.Democrats Abstaining from Voting (NVR): Susan Eggman (District 13 – Stockton/Tracy), Adam Gray (District 21 – Merced/Modesto), Henry Perea (District 31 – Fresno)Comment
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