Californians not able to get warranty work?

[Maddawg46]

I posted a thread on the California Handguns section about Sig Sauer refusing to perform Warranty work on single shot exemption pistols. Since they told me it was on advice from their attorney because the California DOJ would not give them a clear answer on if they could ship them back, are we headed down a steep slope?
Will we not be able to get any gunsmithing done on handguns that are not on the Safe Roster list? We may be heading there.
Maybe someone with close NRA connections can add this to the lawsuit that is already n process on Carmella Harris for delaying DROS approvals

[Gryff]

Why even bring up the SSE aspect? If you own, you own it.

Of course, you face an issue if they have to change the frame (which means that you have to DROS the replacement since it has a different serial number). But the laws shouldn't impact the sender, since it is on the buyer to make sure it that it is legal to receive.

[Donk310]

Use an FFL?

[CSACANNONEER]

How would they know how you legally aquired it?

[Speedpower]

How would they know how you legally aquired it?

They don't care how you acquired it! for them if the gun is not in the Roster then it is not legal to send it back to the owner.

[troysland]

I've experienced this with Taurus. They have a lifetime warranty on all their firearms.

I purchased a pt22 from a calgunner. It was clearly disclosed that the frame had a crack but he didn't want to deal with shipping it out for warranty repair/replacement. He was asking $100 ($135 w/dros) so I rolled the dice and bought it. Local FFL charged $45 to ship it to Miami. After a couple months of analysis and review, Taurus decided to offer a replacement. Since the PT22 is off-roster, they had to replace it with an on-roster handgun. I chose the PT 92 stainless in 9mm and agreed to pay any difference in value. Everything went smoothly, started DROS for $35 and was expecting to have my card charged the extra $400 or so from Taurus. After my 10 day wait, still no charge from Taurus. I ended up with a new stainless 9mm for $215 that would have retailed about $650. It appears Taurus honored their replacement warranty in my favor. Just my experience.

Factory Warranty servicing or repairs will definitely be a headache with the roster BS. YMMV.

[CSACANNONEER]

They don't care how you acquired it! for them if the gun is not in the Roster then it is not legal to send it back to the owner.

Quit spreading FUD! Of course it is legal to return a legally owned firearm to it's legal owner in CA. I'll give you a +1000 rounds of .22lr if you can cite any law which makes it illegal. Hell, I'll give you an entire 5000 round case if you can prove your claim. If your claim was true, no one could ever leave any off roster handgun with a gunsmith for work. Sorry, that simply is not the case. Well, I've put my money where my mouth is. I have a case of CCI Blazer here for you if you can prove your claim. I'm willing to bet that you aren't going to post a retraction to your statement or even post in this thread again because, most people simply can not admit they are wrong.

[CSACANNONEER]

I've experienced this with Taurus. They have a lifetime warranty on all their firearms.

I purchased a pt22 from a calgunner. It was clearly disclosed that the frame had a crack but he didn't want to deal with shipping it out for warranty repair/replacement. He was asking $100 ($135 w/dros) so I rolled the dice and bought it. Local FFL charged $45 to ship it to Miami. After a couple months of analysis and review, Taurus decided to offer a replacement. Since the PT22 is off-roster, they had to replace it with an on-roster handgun. I chose the PT 92 stainless in 9mm and agreed to pay any difference in value. Everything went smoothly, started DROS for $35 and was expecting to have my card charged the extra $400 or so from Taurus. After my 10 day wait, still no charge from Taurus. I ended up with a new stainless 9mm for $215 that would have retailed about $650. It appears Taurus honored their replacement warranty in my favor. Just my experience.

Factory Warranty servicing or repairs will definitely be a headache with the roster BS. YMMV.

Completely different situation. Taurus could not send a replacement gun with a different SN to you but, they could have repair and returned the original off roster gun or a new one with the same SN to you.

[Speedpower]

Quit spreading FUD! Of course it is legal to return a legally owned firearm to it's legal owner in CA. I'll give you a +1000 rounds of .22lr if you can cite any law which makes it illegal. Hell, I'll give you an entire 5000 round case if you can prove your claim. If your claim was true, no one could ever leave any off roster handgun with a gunsmith for work. Sorry, that simply is not the case. Well, I've put my money where my mouth is. I have a case of CCI Blazer here for you if you can prove your claim. I'm willing to bet that you aren't going to post a retraction to your statement or even post in this thread again because, most people simply can not admit they are wrong.

Really?

It's not about Legality, it's SIG's policy, here is another thread for it, let me know if you need my address to send me the 22LR's although I don't need it as I have 35k rounds sitting in my closet.

http://sigtalk.com/sig-sauer-pistols/11030-ca-off-roster-sig-warranty.html

[stix213]

Only issue I can think of is if Sig had to replace the serialized part.

[Gryff]

Completely different situation. Taurus could not send a replacement gun with a different SN to you but, they could have repair and returned the original off roster gun or a new one with the same SN to you.

Actually, it is still completely legal for Sig/Taurus/whoever to ship a replacement gun to a California FFL. The law affects the FFL's ability to transfer the gun to the intended owneer. It has nothing to do with the company shipping the gun into the state.

Really?

It's not about Legality, it's SIG's policy, here is another thread for it, let me know if you need my address to send me the 22LR's although I don't need it as I have 35k rounds sitting in my closet.

http://sigtalk.com/sig-sauer-pistols...-warranty.html

You didn't prove your point. You said that it was illegal for Sig to send the gun. That is absolutely and completely wrong. So, are you sending Cannoneer a case of .22 since you got the law wrong?

if the gun is not in the Roster then it is not legal to send it back to the owner.

[ixta70]

Quit spreading FUD! Of course it is legal to return a legally owned firearm to it's legal owner in CA.

They don't care how you acquired it! for them if the gun is not in the Roster then it is not legal to send it back to the owner.

He's not saying that it's actually illegal, simply that they (the manufacturer) take it as if it would be illegal or a gray area for them so they just avoid the situation altogether.


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[Speedpower]

Actually, it is still completely legal for Sig/Taurus/whoever to ship a replacement gun to a California FFL. The law affects the FFL's ability to transfer the gun to the intended owneer. It has nothing to do with the company shipping the gun into the state.




You didn't prove your point. You said that it was illegal for Sig to send the gun. That is absolutely and completely wrong. So, are you sending Cannoneer a case of .22 since you got the law wrong?

Why, did I offer to give anybody 22LR's?

[Speedpower]

Actually, it is still completely legal for Sig/Taurus/whoever to ship a replacement gun to a California FFL. The law affects the FFL's ability to transfer the gun to the intended owneer. It has nothing to do with the company shipping the gun into the state.




You didn't prove your point. You said that it was illegal for Sig to send the gun. That is absolutely and completely wrong. So, are you sending Cannoneer a case of .22 since you got the law wrong?

They don't care how you acquired it! for them if the gun is not in the Roster then it is not legal to send it back to the owner.

Read my post again! I clearly said "for them" if the gun is not in the Roster then it is not legal to send it back to the owner, you know? for them meaning SIG as "them"

[autoduel]

Its legal to import off roster guns if you are moving to California and bring your collection with you. There's no gray there. If it's registered to a California resident, then it's legal. What about guns that fell off the roster? Are they going to refuse warranty work on them, because they fail to pay the fee?
Stupid policy.