AW Registry

[rob86]

How would the state know who has a weapon that is now considered an AW? I'm sorry if this is redundant. I'm not trying to suggest doing anything illegal. I'm just wondering how the state would know who owns what if people don't want to comply.

[ke6guj]

How would the state know who has a weapon that is now considered an AW? I'm sorry if this is redundant. I'm not trying to suggest doing anything illegal. I'm just wondering how the state would know who owns what if people don't want to comply.

they aren't going to have a master list of people that have unregistered AWs and probably won't be going door-to-door with that list. what will happen is that those people with URAWs will have to hide them in the closet and never take them out in public to a range for fear of being found in possession of a URAW. And whenever you might interact with a LEO at your home, you run the risk of your URAW being found and you being arrested. I don't recall who said that most URAW arrests happen in the home via an unrelated call to the home (medical, domestic, etc).

[rob86]

ok.

[BrokerB]

If everyone who owned a fake aw just showed up by the thousands with now bullet button BS and banana clips with bayonet on they could not make arrest or confiscate. At some point soon its going to be time if the treasonous scum under the white dome continues. The liberty tree is wilting and needs water.

[bwiese]

they aren't going to have a master list of people that have unregistered AWs and probably won't be going door-to-door with that list. what will happen is that those people with URAWs will have to hide them in the closet and never take them out in public to a range for fear of being found in possession of a URAW. And whenever you might interact with a LEO at your home, you run the risk of your URAW being found and you being arrested. I don't recall who said that most URAW arrests happen in the home via an unrelated call to the home (medical, domestic, etc).

That was me, informally quoting gun lawyer Don Kilmer, who said (approx) that, at least from his knowledge, "70% of AW charges are due to domestic incidences".

This didn't mean "wife beatings", this was meant to include any exigency where LEOs could come into your home - fire, kid has some legal issues, hot-pursuit criminal runs thru your house & hides, etc.

An acquaintance lost his AR10T that way - he moved back & forth from Oregon during SB23 becoming active and thought "registration" was the 4473 etc. paperwork filled out at the FFL. His elderly dad and an unstable brother had some family drama resulting in LE coming to the house, and he was (unwisely) cooperative in showing his guns were locked up etc. The cops took the gun but left him the scope, mounts, etc.

[sailor74]

If you don't want to register it, fix it so the magazine release doesn't release the magazine, take the guts out, except for the part that is needed to hold the magazine in place, then no need for registration.

[Bobula]

Sigh

[a1c]

If you don't want to register it, fix it so the magazine release doesn't release the magazine, take the guts out, except for the part that is needed to hold the magazine in place, then no need for registration.

You're assuming that the firearm in question doesn't have any other feature that would qualify it as an "assault weapon".

[gr8dragon88]

How would the state know who has a weapon that is now considered an AW? I'm sorry if this is redundant. I'm not trying to suggest doing anything illegal. I'm just wondering how the state would know who owns what if people don't want to comply.

ever heard the phrase being used by politicians all the time now to get neighbors to spy on each others??

and you expect people to keep a secret? how can fb, twitters, etc.. make money if people are so good at keeping secrets...

[sailor74]

You're assuming that the firearm in question doesn't have any other feature that would qualify it as an "assault weapon".

Of course, I forgot to add that, I was assuming that it was not featureless.

[-hanko]

ever heard the phrase being used by politicians all the time now to get neighbors to spy on each others??

and you expect people to keep a secret? how can fb, twitters, etc.. make money if people are so good at keeping secrets...

DOJ estimated that 10 to 15% of "assault" weapons were registered by the January, 2001 deadline.

I doubt that's going to change.

-hanko

[G21Shooter]

DOJ estimated that 10 to 15% of "assault" weapons were registered by the January, 2001 deadline.

I doubt that's going to change.

-hanko

This man speaks the trust. Most people who own guns know whats going on and don't trust the government. Registration leads to confiscation, period.

My guess is IF the law passes(lets hope it won't) it will not be enforced very strictly. Most LEOs are pro gun and aren't going to bust dad and boy shooting their Mini 14 and 10/22 that they don't know are illegal.

[Carnivore]

If everyone who owned a fake aw just showed up by the thousands with now bullet button BS and banana clips with bayonet on they could not make arrest or confiscate. At some point soon its going to be time if the treasonous scum under the white dome continues. The liberty tree is wilting and needs water.

Ya, you severely underestimate the resolve those idiots have. Unless you are ready for a war with out due process in the courts first, then this is a horrible idea. For now that is.

[prometa]

DOJ estimated that 10 to 15% of "assault" weapons were registered by the January, 2001 deadline.

I doubt that's going to change.

-hanko

Source? I'm curious if they also estimate the main reasons for non-registration too.

[jaymz]

DOJ estimated that 10 to 15% of "assault" weapons were registered by the January, 2001 deadline.

I doubt that's going to change.

-hanko

I'd bet money it'll change - to around 3-5%!