CBS2/KCAL9 to sponsor another gun buyback for the LAPD

[zhyla]

BULL. First off, journalists aren't supposed to have political leanings.

I'm sure how you can say that with a straight face, but regardless, they've got a 1A right to push a political agenda as they see fit. You don't have to watch their news or buy their papers.

Secondly, you are missing the collusion that happens between the LAPD (and LASD, CHP etc.) and the news outlets.

The news reporters depend on PD's to supply them with stories, and access to whatever crime scene details, perp descriptions, etc. etc. they can give to them.

In return, the news outlets report ONLY what the PD's tell them... which usually isn't a problem, except when the PD is feeding them blatant propaganda about, say, guns or "big drug busts".

Where do you think journalists get all their laughably stupid gun misinformation from? Hint: their SOLE source for that kind of research is.... PDs. They know the last thing they should do is question the information that PDs give them. 1st rule of journalism: don't bite the hand that feeds you high ratings.

You say collusion/corruption, I just see cooperation. It's even in the public's interest to report information from the PD's. You want them to hire PI's to investigate every little stabbing before they report on it? Corruption would be the news companies agreeing to not report on stories that put PD's in a negative light. At least in San Diego that seems to not be the case (they reported heavily on the cop sexual coercion case, for example).

Just because someone is anti-gun doesn't make them evil and corrupt.

[CitaDeL]

Not quite sure what your point is or why anyone would be upset honestly..Some people want to participate in the buy back and they do..some criminals may want money for their guns or maybe they won't..its up to the individual. No jack booted thugs are coming and demanding your guns..Its out there..you can choose to participate or not so getting angry at the police department makes no sense..the hammer thing is strawman. No one is running around on crazy hammer death spree's.("OH BUT THEY TOTALLY COULD!!!"..No they couldn't)

Why would anyone be upset?

1) 'Buybacks' are promoted as crime prevention.
2) But 'buybacks' do not prevent crime.
3) By partcipating in buybacks, gunowners aide the false perception that guns are evil and must taken to police to be disposed of.
4) Even if the firearm is 'junk' the media can portray the gross numbers as a police victory against the 'proliferation of guns' on the streets, further bolstering the false perception that guns are evil and must be destroyed.
5) The police are lauded and congratulated for reducing crime, wherein they arrest no criminals but destroy property that might be evidence of a crime.

Yeah. I completely see no reason to be pissed.

[yellowfin]

Just because someone is anti-gun doesn't make them evil and corrupt.

It's about as reliable an indicator as currently exists.

[Pig Rifle]

Another thing to remember is that it's not just Ralph's and other anti-freedom businesses that are paying for these goatropes. You and I are paying these officers to sit here doing this crap all weekend while real crime goes unabated. This is one of the reasons why I have no sympathy for the LEAs and cop unions who piss and moan about there not being enough police "on the street". Well tough **** then, Officer McShiftless! Gonna stroke away an entire weekend doing this pointless, feelgood garbage while suckling the Gubment teat? Time to fire these useless eaters.

[SanPedroShooter]

Another thing to remember is that it's not just Ralph's and other anti-freedom businesses that are paying for these goatropes. You and I are paying these officers to sit here doing this crap all weekend while real crime goes unabated. This is one of the reasons why I have no sympathy for the LEAs and cop unions who piss and moan about there not being enough police "on the street". Well tough **** then, Officer McShiftless! Gonna stroke away an entire weekend doing this pointless, feelgood garbage while suckling the Gubment teat? Time to fire these useless eaters.

Ha ha, preach on neighbor!

I'll see you at Vons....

I like the one at 25th and Western, beats standing in line in the Ghetto Vons on Gaffey behind some 'useless eater' (I like that) with a cart full of steak, junk food, a dozen boxes of Pepsi and an EBT card.

I dont think there is a Ralphs between here and Torrance...

[Pig Rifle]

Ha ha, preach on neighbor!

I'll see you at Vons....

I like the one at 25th and Western, beats standing in line in the Ghetto Vons on Gaffey behind some 'useless eater' (I like that) with a cart full of steak, junk food, a dozen boxes of Pepsi and an EBT card.

I dont think there is a Ralphs between here and Torrance...

I can't really take full credit for the "useless eater" thing. It was first uttered I think by some evil politician whose name escapes me. And yeah the 13th Street Vons is known around my family as "tweaker Vons" LOL.

[dbo31]

Why would anyone be upset?

1) 'Buybacks' are promoted as crime prevention.
2) But 'buybacks' do not prevent crime.
3) By partcipating in buybacks, gunowners aide the false perception that guns are evil and must taken to police to be disposed of.
4) Even if the firearm is 'junk' the media can portray the gross numbers as a police victory against the 'proliferation of guns' on the streets, further bolstering the false perception that guns are evil and must be destroyed.
5) The police are lauded and congratulated for reducing crime, wherein they arrest no criminals but destroy property that might be evidence of a crime.

Yeah. I completely see no reason to be pissed.

I think you're trying really hard to find a reason to be pissed..The police simply buy back guns that individuals bring to them..its THEIR gun to do with as they please. It effects your gun ownership status in no way whatsoever. But please..carry on with being angry at literally nothing that effects you. These aren't quality rifles and handguns they're taking off the streets and most importers and manufactures of weapons here can't keep up with demand so you probably don't have to worry. Just adjust your tin foil hat and calm down.

[me109g4]

Dunno who is angry,,,, I just dont want to see a ww2 luger or ppk go to the scrapper. they can have all the junk guns they want, i just want a shot at saving the good stuff.

[CitaDeL]

I think you're trying really hard to find a reason to be pissed..The police simply buy back guns that individuals bring to them..its THEIR gun to do with as they please. It effects your gun ownership status in no way whatsoever. But please..carry on with being angry at literally nothing that effects you. These aren't quality rifles and handguns they're taking off the streets and most importers and manufactures of weapons here can't keep up with demand so you probably don't have to worry. Just adjust your tin foil hat and calm down.

I can see we will not agree about what kind of harm these events have on the perception of guns and gunowners.

We will also not agree that all the rifles and handguns are junk. Granted, many are... but even if they arent WWII vintage heirlooms or highly prized rarities, there are uses for those bolt action .22's and small caliber handguns among Appleseed groups or other marksmanship and safety events for young or new shooters.

I will also contend that there is something disingenuous about a self professed second amendment advocate that isn't compelled to challenge the gun buyback concept at its root. I dont believe we should take part in a program that means to villainize the tools of self defense, or to take them from those willfully ignorant of their use.