Former Sac sheriff John McGinness has a short debate with Sam Peredes (GOC) on News 10 in Sacramento discussing the recent open carry legislation. Video of Sacramento resident OC a shotgun included. Both speak plainly to the facts. Try to put your bias aside and listen to the statements made by each man. There is a lot there even if the words themselves are few.
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McGinness v Peredes open carry debate on News 10
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You're right, some very good insights, likely difficult for many people to hear on both sides of the OC issue. But your right, keeping your bias aside, this was a great discussion.member: Electronic Frontier Foundation, NRA, CGF
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I remember when McGinness spoke as a guest speaker in my crim law class. The man is definitely very intelligent and knowledgeable about the issues surrounding many of these kinds of things. Solid arguments on both sides, but I primarily agree with McGinness. He didnt like how they went about taking away open carry, "only a fool carries an unloaded gun", open carry scares people and is possibly detrimental to 2A, cities and rural areas should be treated differently, no impact on crime, etc. I think I would have a much stronger stance on this issue if CCW's were not as expensive and difficult to obtain, preventing many people from carrying period now. Overall both sides make solid arguments.Comment
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The 2nd Amendment is not about hunting or competition shooting. It's all about your inalienable rights to life and liberty.Comment
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NRA Life Member (Benefactor level)
"Those who give up some of their liberty in order to obtain a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty, nor safety." B. Franklin
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The 2nd Amendment is not about hunting or competition shooting. It's all about your inalienable rights to life and liberty.Comment
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Same here, no video.Comment
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Try this link. Video without the story. I had a problem the first time I tried to watch it, I just refreshed the page and it played fine. Thought it was just me.Comment
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What about occupy Oakland people that urinate and defecate in public. I bet that upsets a lot of people, but the politicians and police won't bat an eye at spending millions to give them their first amendment rights. The same logic should apply should it not. If someone feels uneasy about someone's actions and behavior then the police and politicians should intervene to stop it. That is their argument against open carry.Comment
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That was an interesting video. I've carried my rifle slung on my back from home to the range, and it's about ten miles through sac county, most of it urban. One experience over a year ago saw me surrounded by his deputies, handcuffed, and searched.
The next time I advised the law enforcement I would be going again, and that I expected my rights would be respected. I was not molested the next timeComment
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A fair and reasonable debate, but truthfully between two seemingly pro 2a people. I think the debate represents the ccw vs OC debate better than a pro v anti 2a debate, which I thought it would be.If you are wondering if you can get a LTC in Riverside County: THE ANSWER IS YES!
Join the discussion at:http://www.calguns.net/calgunforum/s...d.php?t=352777Comment
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McGinness and Peredes both were displaying their ignorance of the issue (and giving bad legal advice) Where to begin...False is the idea of utility that sacrifices a thousand real advantages for one imaginary or trifling inconvenience; that would take fire from men because it burns, and water because one may drown in it; that has no remedy for evils except destruction. The laws that forbid the carrying of arms are laws of such a nature. They disarm only those who are neither inclined nor determined to commit crimes.
-- Cesare Beccaria http://www.a-human-right.com/Comment
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