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  • j.hors
    Member
    • Sep 2011
    • 200

    I have a very weird question

    Ok so I have been in california for 5 years and for not being a lawyer I think I understand cali gun laws but here is where the question comes in: my parents live here but are still colorado residents and don't want to better can't change to california residents yet, in colorado you aren't required to register handguns so they got a gun from a friends and want to bring it here, now if they do can I register in my name and leave it in their apartment just in case (we live in the same complex), and if I would and they had to use it what could be the worst thing to happen to them/me. And I know you guys aren't lawyers but google didn't have a answer
  • #2
    watsonville
    Senior Member
    • Nov 2010
    • 568

    You would have to do voluntary registration interfamiliar transfer through the doj you should move back to Colorado while you still can

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    • #3
      j.hors
      Member
      • Sep 2011
      • 200

      Originally posted by watsonville
      You would have to do voluntary registration interfamiliar transfer through the doj you should move back to Colorado while you still can
      I wish I could, but my wife is Navy and stationed here. They came out here to be near my kids. The transfer is the easy part, but what would the poop repercussions be if I left it at their apartment and they had to use it

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      • #4
        kemikalembalance
        Senior Member
        • Jun 2011
        • 599

        ^what he said about the reg. and worst case in a self defense situation...probation or a fine for an unregistered california hand gun. but it is grey as to a family member being in possession of anothers handgun. a longrifle is alot more lax, or shotgun. but as a hand gun owner, i cannot lend a pistol to anyone besides my wife as far as i know with out some legal bs that needs to go through a ffl. if i read and interpreted it correctly.
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        and our leaders allow themselves to be spoon fed with foreign BS and have forgotten that the great majority of americans do not live in secluded gated comunities with private security 24/7 like they do, while the rest of us are subject to defending ourselves without Police escorts whenever we need it. they dont realize we are subject to different dangers than they are, and we must have and keep the right do defend ourselves!

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        • #5
          G-forceJunkie
          Calguns Addict
          • Jul 2010
          • 6202

          Sentences. Use them.

          The jist I get:
          You: california resident
          Parents: Colorado resident
          Situation: Parents want to give you a handgun.

          Since this is a cross state transfer, it needs to go through an FFL. Your parents mail (or deliver) the handgun to a California FFL willing to do the transfer. If the handgun is not on the roster, it is eligable for interfamiliar exemption. You pay the fees, wait 10 days, the gun is yours. Guns can be loaned out for 30 days. Once a month, take it back to your house, then loan it back to your parents.

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          • #6
            kemikalembalance
            Senior Member
            • Jun 2011
            • 599

            and you and your parents would absolutely loose in a civil case, but that would be the least of your concerns if they were put into that situation.
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            and our leaders allow themselves to be spoon fed with foreign BS and have forgotten that the great majority of americans do not live in secluded gated comunities with private security 24/7 like they do, while the rest of us are subject to defending ourselves without Police escorts whenever we need it. they dont realize we are subject to different dangers than they are, and we must have and keep the right do defend ourselves!

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            • #7
              j.hors
              Member
              • Sep 2011
              • 200

              Originally posted by G-forceJunkie
              Sentences. Use them.

              The jist I get:
              You: california resident
              Parents: Colorado resident
              Situation: Parents want to give you a handgun.

              Since this is a cross state transfer, it needs to go through an FFL. Your parents mail (or deliver) the handgun to a California FFL willing to do the transfer. If the handgun is not on the roster, it is eligable for interfamiliar exemption. You pay the fees, wait 10 days, the gun is yours. Guns can be loaned out for 30 days. Once a month, take it back to your house, then loan it back to your parents.
              Not exactly, I would go back to colorado and pick it up and bring it back, that would maker it my possession, then it would be considered an import and I just have to send paperwork to the doj. If I understand the rules right

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              • #8
                Fern
                Senior Member
                • Feb 2011
                • 1203

                Why wouldn't they be able to stay in possesion of the firearm even if they aren't residents yet? It was aquired from a state they are residents of, and for all intents and purposes they are visiting CA. As long as its CA legal. This is a ligitament question for the record.
                Last edited by Fern; 11-01-2011, 10:35 PM.

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                • #9
                  G-forceJunkie
                  Calguns Addict
                  • Jul 2010
                  • 6202

                  No, a california resident cannot aquire a handgun in a different state and just bring it back. Its a Federal deal, it is crossing state lines, it must go through an FFL.
                  Originally posted by j.hors
                  Not exactly, I would go back to colorado and pick it up and bring it back, that would maker it my possession, then it would be considered an import and I just have to send paperwork to the doj. If I understand the rules right

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                  • #10
                    j.hors
                    Member
                    • Sep 2011
                    • 200

                    Originally posted by Fern
                    Why wouldn't they be able to stay in possesion of the firearm even if they aren't residents yet? It was aquired from a state they are residents of, and for all intents and purposes they are visiting CA. As long as its CA legal. This is a ligitament question for the record.
                    Because they can't be cali residents yet.and california requires registration within I think 30 days of the gun coming into cali. And it would be a little hard to say they are visiting with an apartment lease. But I understand what you are getting at

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                    • #11
                      j.hors
                      Member
                      • Sep 2011
                      • 200

                      Originally posted by G-forceJunkie
                      No, a california resident cannot aquire a handgun in a different state and just bring it back. Its a Federal deal, it is crossing state lines, it must go through an FFL.
                      I still have a colorado address listing and a colorado drivers license

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                      • #12
                        Fern
                        Senior Member
                        • Feb 2011
                        • 1203

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                          j.hors
                          Member
                          • Sep 2011
                          • 200

                          thank you that helps a lot

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                          • #14
                            Fern
                            Senior Member
                            • Feb 2011
                            • 1203

                            Beginning January 1, 1998, individuals moving to California with handguns are required to register their handguns as "personal handgun importers" (Penal Code 12072(f)(2)). The person must file the "New Resident Handgun Ownership Report". I think the key word is "Resident".
                            Last edited by Fern; 11-01-2011, 11:11 PM.

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                            • #15
                              j.hors
                              Member
                              • Sep 2011
                              • 200

                              Originally posted by Fern
                              Beginning January 1, 1998, individuals moving to California with handguns are required to register their handguns as "personal handgun importers" (Penal Code 12072(f)(2)). The person must file the "New Resident Handgun Ownership Report". I think the key word is "Resident".
                              Ok so I import it, register it to me, then loan it to them, do they have to be residents to loan it and do they have to wait 10 days to get it?

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