Gov. Brown is no fool

[kblack583]

Not to point out the obvious, but didn't Arnold sign AB962? I don't think the Demo's are the only political party taking a dump on our rights here in the PRK.

Really? Keep pointing to a an out of the norm traitor like Arnold to somehow justify a democratic vote. Let me know how that works out down the road.

Want to be honest about it? Then put it in the text of supreme court appointments and make the same argument.

[hoffmang]

Want to be honest about it? Then put it in the text of supreme court appointments and make the same argument.

Don't confuse federal politics with state politics. Outside of California the Republicans are only slightly more capable than the inept Democrats. But it continues to be a race for the bottom.

-Gene

[Don29palms]

Any gun control laws are unconstitutional to begin with. They are all infringements. Thank you liberals for creating the United Socialist State of Kalifornia Where the Constitution and the Bill of Rights mean nothing anymore.

[taperxz]

Any gun control laws are unconstitutional to begin with. They are all infringements. Thank you liberals for creating the United Socialist State of Kalifornia Where the Constitution and the Bill of Rights mean nothing anymore.

Actually most of the gun laws we have in place were either introduced or signed off by a republican.

[Sgt Raven]

I'm a Firefighter/EMT in an Oil Refinery, these little flames are nothing compared to what I'm used to.

Is your nickname here from Purple K Powder? If so then

[Zebra]

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LEGISLATIVE ALERT

This information is accurate at the time this CAL-ERT was written and originally distributed. The NRA Members' Councils of California will keep you informed as the legislative, regulatory, and/or litigation situation changes in California.

GOVERNOR BROWN SIGNS NRA/CRPA SPONSORED CCW REFORM LEGISLATION!

When Senate Bill 610 goes into effect, the first of next year, it will bring the long-awaited statewide consistency in the manner of how CCW permits are processed by all issuing agencies. SB610 will require agencies to determine if an applicant has initial "Good Cause" to be issued a permit BEFORE the applicant is required to fulfill the requirements in training, classes, background checks and pay the sometimes extensive fees required to obtain a permit. SB610 will also specify that issuing agencies CANNOT require CCW applicants to obtain "Liability Insurance" as a condition for being issued a CCW permit.

In California's current political climate, reforms such as SB610 require a tremendous amount of effort and coordination by all of those involved. The NRA and CRPA have shown to be quite effective in their efforts to pass this legislation that both organizations sponsored. Their work to protect the Second Amendment freedoms of their members is a perfect example of how we all can be successful if we remain vigilant.

When the Governor signed Senate Bill 610, he presented NRA's lobbyist with a copy of the signed bill. Clearly, Governor Brown appreciates NRA-ILA California State Liaison Ed Worley.

Y'all saw this, right?

F.

[IrishPirate]

Actually most of the gun laws we have in place were either introduced or signed off by a republican.

what are you doing spreading truth!!!

yes, it's a sad truth that there seems to be a cyclical nature to who does and doesn't support gun control when it comes to politics. In 20-30 years we might be cursing conservative republicans for their anti-gun rhetoric and all claiming to be liberal democrats that cling to our guns and freedom!

[Sgt Raven]

What is your proof of that, a figment of your imagination fueled by pro-Brown forces on this board?

Meg Whitman A native of Long Island, New York, she is a graduate of Princeton University and Harvard Business School.

eMeg is a New Yorker with the anti gun attitude of those from that area, plus what she did at E-Bay. What's YOUR proof she's not?

[Purple K]

Is your nickname here from Purple K Powder? If so then

But, of course.

[vonderplatz]

Wow...just, wow. You guys sure do see what you want to see. While Brown could certainly be worse, he is no friend to gun rights. He just passed legislation that we have been fighting tooth and nail in this state for as long as I have been into guns (registration of long guns) and you sing his praises.

^^^This!

[jamesob]

Gerry Brown is a chameleon of sorts. By signing the anti-gun bills he can pander to his base, while at the same time serve us up a beautiful pitch. It's up to us to take that pitch and knock it outta the park. There is a silver lining to that dark cloud. As Gene always says "chess, not checkers." I think the Governor plays chess too, and he's not sitting across from us.

Your right he is no fool, he didn't sign the ammo bill because it was already ruled in our favor. All the others haven't been challenged yet in court that's why he signed them. If you think he signed any bill to help our cause in any way, I think I know where the fool is.

[mlevans66]

I got a feeling thing are going to change with the new guns laws. Lawyers are shady by nature and find silver lining is clouds all the time. I can see a whole slew of lawsuits coming that might end up at the supreme court. Kali could be the breaking point for a lot of other states gunlaws being changed in the future. Might even lead to national carry CCW or otherwise. Hey I can dream right?

[Josh3239]

Only in California, the land of fruits and nuts, would a "pro gun" crowd defend Jerry Brown signing anti-gun bills.

[Beyond]

Because gun owners are the minority in this state and any measures we bring up will lose bad. The people of CA for, the most part, hate guns and gun owners.

I think there just isn't enough education on the topic matter. If there was a shooting 101 as a gym class I'm sure we wouldn't have these problems.

[Jared1981]

Okay, just some thoughts on Jerry Brown.

1. Signed Amicus in favor of 2A. Check.

2. Signed AB610 to standardize 12050 PC. Check.

3. Vetoed bill to register ammo. Check.

As others have already said, long gun registration doesn't go into effect until 2014, that gives our side time to get it ruled unconstitutional. AB144 made carrying an unloaded handgun illegal, an issue that stood in the way of a ruling in our favor in Peruta. Now they're going to have to come up with an alternative to that which, in their mind satisfies, the right to bear arms. So what could that possibly be ?

Sorry, but I'm not seeing the bad side to this yet.

This is a myth. If UOC was banned when Peruta was argued, the court would have just stated that Heller does not apply outside the home.

This notion that UOC prevented a good court ruling on carry is actually more crazy than the rationalization that Brown is pro-RKBA. He didn't do anyone in CA any favors on 2A issues. Long gun registration is a very bad sign of things to come in CA.

You do realize that not even New York or New Jersey has the votes to pass long gun registration (New Jersey doesn't register handguns either).

Future court rulings may help in CA in the long run; however, California will be what Alabama was to the civil rights act.