Gov. Brown is no fool

[KAPCO]

I believe he is a Sheep in Wolves clothing, he caters to Big union Mob Bosses (like most) and was purchased by China to get a agenda done. I see this as infringment and while CA is broke and there is a stupid 400k estimate of the additional costs to tax payers why dont they multiply that by 10 for a real #?. Lies and Marxist policy are allways been his belief. If you consider a Marxist a friend of the USA you need to live in China for a few years. Pollution so thick you cant breath. Outsource all our work to the dirtiest Nation on the Planet, at the hands of C.A.R.B. and the E.P.A.(not in my back yard) Fire them and we may start to heal from the lack of work here. Stop paying farmers NOT to farm thier land while the world is starving? Again Politics and the sick EPA.I only envied Brown once, he had Linda Ronstat. He was a looser Gov then and I see many have short memories.
I know quite a few cops who say the day they request us to take the guns from law abiding citizens is the day we put our badges on thier Chiefs desk. It is a suicide mission as one cop stated to many others who agreed.
Englands people say give us back our guns! As home invasion is on the rise they are left helpless, at least for the first time in history the Brit Cops carry guns instead of a bat. I see Great Britan struggle with arming of the civilan, I also see them say, America! Dont be stupid like us. Hold on to your Constitutions 2 amend. Quite a depressing story that the Media refuses to show. Youtube has the story from ametuer reporters.

I dont see anything good in new Laws to be drawn up and another branch of goverment tosupport the New laws? Lawyer's make plenty of money as do the politicans. I believe because of this long guns will sell out in a few weeks in CA. Gov Brown is spurring a short term buying frenzy in CA like never seen before. Record sales again.
I wish those darn guns would stop walking around and shooting people? I suppose Nuncy Pelozzy would understand that because afterall you have to read it after you pass it to find out what it says? Her own words over obummercare. Who balances her checkbook? Oh the mob, I forgot.

Reasoning in legislation that infringes on the USA is what I dont understand, what is it you are trying to say? This is a second Gov's chance for him, he lost before why is he good now? I am totally confused here.

[The Shadow]

If Long Gun Registration had been vetoed I'd be throwing drunken parties! To be dissapointed on only one bill... Not so bad for California.

Sure beats the year we got Microstamping and Lead Ammo in one... Thanks Republican Ahnold....

-Gene

I agree that, had the long gun registration been vetoed, that would be a good thing, but it wasn't, and in two years, if things don't change, it will be law. So what do you have up your sleeve that will make this effectively a moot point ? You know, like microstamping. Is passing long gun registration going to prove to be a lesson in futility for the legislators that voted for it ?

[hasserl]

But don't you know? The world is divided into two, distinct, simple camps: the libs and the pro-2As.

And obviously, Brown must be a lib, therefore anti-2A.

Black and white politics. They make a lot of sense to idiots and drunks.

Which one are you?

[hasserl]

The republican choice was vehemently antigun...........

What is your proof of that, a figment of your imagination fueled by pro-Brown forces on this board?

[hasserl]

Okay, just some thoughts on Jerry Brown.

1. Signed Amicus in favor of 2A. Check.

2. Signed AB610 to standardize 12050 PC. Check.

3. Vetoed bill to register ammo. Check.

As others have already said, long gun registration doesn't go into effect until 2014, that gives our side time to get it ruled unconstitutional. AB144 made carrying an unloaded handgun illegal, an issue that stood in the way of a ruling in our favor in Peruta. Now they're going to have to come up with an alternative to that which, in their mind satisfies, the right to bear arms. So what could that possibly be ?

Sorry, but I'm not seeing the bad side to this yet.

Brown's amicus brief was not pro-2A, we covered this prior to the election. You were mislead by people who wanted your vote.

[SteveH]

What I expect is office holders to uphold the constitution. The minute they do not, by signing any antigun legislation, no matter how insignificant, they are PROVEN to be the enemy of liberty. Period.

[hasserl]

Everyone keeps saying Chess, not Checkers. Have you ever sacrificed a pawn to divert the attention of your opponent, while you move your more important pieces for the win ?

These insignificant victories are like that.

That is crap, no one here was promoting the signing of these bills!!! You're just rationalizing now after the loss, like a Monday morning quarterback. Admit your defeat, you were swindled. You're never going to learn from your mistakes if you refuse to admit to them.

[berg]

Black and white politics. They make a lot of sense to idiots and drunks.

That's signature material right there.

[Stonewalker]

Think about this, what reason could Brown POSSIBLY have for saying retired LEOs can't keep their RAWs? I'm sure he lost political points in doing so. I'm sure retired LEO are one of the last categories of people that antis worry about having such guns. I'm sure he knows that his decision had ZERO impact on public safety.

Come guys, use your noggins.

[SteveH]

If Long Gun Registration had been vetoed I'd be throwing drunken parties! To be dissapointed on only one bill... Not so bad for California.

Sure beats the year we got Microstamping and Lead Ammo in one... Thanks Republican Ahnold....

-Gene

You are not concerned about DROS fees being used to fund increased operation by Kami Harris' gun cops? I expect to see more border gun store and gun show stings. I expect to see more guys with family court orders getting their doors kicked in, arrested and their guns confiscated. I expect to see people who out of a poor understanding of our states overly complicated firearms laws getting arrested for prohibited person violations related to old plead bargains or hospitalizations.

Thats way worse than the UOC ban or rifle registration.

[wildhawker]

I agree that, had the long gun registration been vetoed, that would be a good thing, but it wasn't, and in two years, if things don't change, it will be law. So what do you have up your sleeve that will make this effectively a moot point ? You know, like microstamping. Is passing long gun registration going to prove to be a lesson in futility for the legislators that voted for it ?

Long term, registration (of the sort we have here in California) will either be proved to be unconstitutional, or not. Short term, the long gun reg bill does create some interesting new arguments...

-Brandon

[Bigtime1]

Gerry Brown is a chameleon of sorts. By signing the anti-gun bills he can pander to his base, while at the same time serve us up a beautiful pitch. It's up to us to take that pitch and knock it outta the park. There is a silver lining to that dark cloud. As Gene always says "chess, not checkers." I think the Governor plays chess too, and he's not sitting across from us.

Sure, because he's so clear headed. He would never do something really stupid like give taxpayer dollars to illegal aliens...

[wildhawker]

You are not concerned about DROS fees being used to fund increased operation by Kami Harris' gun cops? I expect to see more border gun store and gun show stings. I expect to see more guys with family court orders getting their doors kicked in, arrested and their guns confiscated. I expect to see people who out of a poor understanding of our states overly complicated firearms laws getting arrested for prohibited person violations related to old plead bargains or hospitalizations.

Thats way worse than the UOC ban or rifle registration.

There is currently ongoing litigation that should address the DROS fees issue. (If it doesn't, there are other litigation strategies available. NRA/CRPA attorneys took our investigation into the DROS system and went a different direction, but we hope that the case is successful so we can focus on issues like AWs, Bear, and waiting periods.)

Ultimately, those who are prohibited have a duty under the law to not possess firearms. It's difficult to be found reasonable if your primary argument against the increase in enforcement is that they will do more of what they are supposed to.

-Brandon

[ivsamhell]

What is your proof of that, a figment of your imagination fueled by pro-Brown forces on this board?

Mostly just her statements, ebay being deathly allergic to anything firearm related under her supervision helped too.

[MSO4MATT]

as will thinking this is a den vs rep issue.

simply being a republican does NOT make one a friend of the 2nd. thinking that it does has done more harm then good. Since 1983 there have been 4 govenors, 3 R, 1 D. Of those 3, 2 did as much damage to your RKBA as did the 1 democrat, Davis. So far, while not ideal by any means, Gov Brown hasn't done any significant damage and maybe even (intentional or not. open to debate I guess) done us some "favors". But regardless he hasn't done any significant damage to your RKBAs. So far a lot less than George Deukmejian and Arnold Schwarzenegger did. and they were both Republican.

This isn't a party issue, it's a Civil Rights issue. please treat it as such and stop making it a party issue. personally I want to win. Don't you?

Everyone should take note of this statement. It is not a new concept. There are Tyrants and the People. People who think of and work towards more regulation are tyrants! Elite members of the political ruling class. Nothing is more despised than a free and "armed" serfdom by the elite. D vs. R issues are theater created to keep us distracted from the slow creep toward tyranny. Be more vigilant and vote freedom whenever you can for as long as you can.