LEO wants to come in and check out my house after finding out were gun owners.

[dantodd]

Yeah, your reading comprehension definitely needs work before you start calling people paranoid and not knowing the law, especially after his concerns about his wife's tendency to talk too much was validated.



time after time on Calguns we have come to the knowledge that "look" is everything to some police employees.

^ +1.

I would just ignore his request as made to your wife. Talk with your wife about NOT letting this person into your house unless he brings a warrant.


I'd also possible he was saying that he "needs" to check out your collection the same way many here might make that claim but your wife and BIL missed the intended humor. In that case have him over for a few drinks and get to know him. You never know, you might make a friend.

If, on the other hand, your wife and BIL are right and he was serious
I kinda like the pelvic exam idea, or a variation there on to check for concealed silicone if he brings it up with your directly.

[Sunday]

Try to sue him where are the pro gun attornoneys here? I would say F.U. And wave the Constitution at them .

[dantodd]

A mag locked featureless build, is that illegal in CA?

Sure. It's like wearing a condom after a vasectomy.

[CSACANNONEER]

Actually i do, from this site! If this is the way you feel then why don't we all put mag locks on our mini's, our M1A's, ect. all stock featureless rifles?? A featureless build is just that and is not prohibited.


There is just no such thing as "more legal or more legal looking"

Hey, for that matter what if he does put a bullet button on a featureless build and tells and LEO that it is an AR or AK and the uneducated LEO still arrests the OP for possessing an assault rifle based on the name? Really where does it stop with ignorance? After all and LEO can arrest anyone any time for anything really!! It doesn't make it right, doesn't mean a conviction, so why be "more legal"?

Be legal, understand the law, and when all else fails call CGF.

Again, if you think the OP does not understand the law, please explain why you think so. If you understand the laws, then you obviously also understand that what the OP suggested was not illegal under any circumstances (of course, with a mag lock the gun is limited to 10 round mags). Since you obviously understand that, why did you infer that he doesn't understand the law? I still don't see anything that the OP has said that would support your claim. Reading comprehension 101 is still recommended.

[taperxz]

A mag locked featureless build, is that illegal in CA?

To clear the air here, i did not mean to imply a mag locked featureless build was illegal but simply not needed. It does not make the rifle "more" legal.

My interpretation of the OP was that he is trying to be more legal and worried about his firearms looking more legal which IMO is not needed to keep an uneducated LEO happy.

[winnre]

Buy another gun just to protest the cop's attitude.

[dantodd]

My interpretation of the OP was that he is trying to be more legal and worried about his firearms looking more legal which IMO is not needed to keep an uneducated LEO happy.

This is why everyone keeps telling you that your reading comprehension is inadequate.

He just wants to know if changing the configuration of his gun will minimize the chance of drama with his idiot neighbor.

It may well be your opinion that you don't care if the uneducated LEO is happy but he didn't ask that, he merely asked if people thought that uneducated LEOs are more familiar with BBs than featureless builds. Since he was obviously well aware of both types of legal builds it was wrong of you to suggest that he didn't understand the law.

[paul0660]

Talk with your wife about NOT letting this person into your house

Very important, because she didn't seem to "get it" before. The cop's question about why the OP needs guns puts the cop on the far fringe of cluelessness, and I wouldn't trust him at all.

[taperxz]

Again, if you think the OP does not understand the law, please explain why you think so. If you understand the laws, then you obviously also understand that what the OP suggested was not illegal under any circumstances (of course, with a mag lock the gun is limited to 10 round mags). Since you obviously understand that, why did you infer that he doesn't understand the law? I still don't see anything that the OP has said that would support your claim. Reading comprehension 101 is still recommended.

OK you are SOOO much smarter, thats great!! Point is if you know the law you should not have to try to make a firearm "more legal" Again the OP is talking about an LEO who may think he is on to something. "possibly"

If the OP is building rifles my suggestion was to know the law, and be confident that after doing so, you are within the law, and that worrying about an uneducated LEO should not stop him.

[glbtrottr]

SCREW THE LEO. He has no right to come into your place without a warrant. Your collection (as your multiple life choices) are non of his business. He has no business in your personal life. He's there to enforce the law - and has no reason to believe you're breaking it.

Your wife? Already discussed. God love her support and enthusiasm - she simply needs to learn discretion.

[DisgruntledReaper]

A rookie LEO out to protect the world from itself. If he ever shows up at your door. Just smile and say. "No"

^^^^THIS! and he is now on a power trip and out to impress his 'masters' and show how he disrupted and EVIIL lowly gun owning plebe from exercising his rights...how dare anyone other than the 'fed god cop' own anything that shoots.--sorry rant off...

Honestly- No way allow him in and TELL AND MAKE TO UNDERSTAND to the wife and STOOPID BIL NOT to allow the neighbor in WHETHER you are home or not..he may try this..

I THINK the mention of 'AK building party' MAY have been like blood to a shark to the rookie--'ooooh unlicensed home built evil rifle'

Finally-yea he wants to actually see it 'as a fellow gun owner' then I would say 'well maybe if I ever see you at ...range ,we can play show and tell'

good luck and beware of attempted 'blank paper stuffed in face fake search warrant attempts'....and DO BS the BIL and tell wife to shut her pie hole...

[taperxz]

This is why everyone keeps telling you that your reading comprehension is inadequate.

He just wants to know if changing the configuration of his gun will minimize the chance of drama with his idiot neighbor.

It may well be your opinion that you don't care if the uneducated LEO is happy but he didn't ask that, he merely asked if people thought that uneducated LEOs are more familiar with BBs than featureless builds. Since he was obviously well aware of both types of legal builds it was wrong of you to suggest that he didn't understand the law.

I am sorry but i kinda have to disagree because the OP claims to only have pistols in his apartment and all rifles are at another location. How would this LEO be able to "check out" rifles if they are indeed not in his apartment?

[Oceanbob]

Buy one of these DOORMATS...




Make sure your wife has the guts to say NO if any LEO attempts to intimidate his way into your home.

Have her watch this video:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yqMjMPlXzdA

Loose lips sink ships BTW.

[dantodd]

I am sorry but i kinda have to disagree because the OP claims to only have pistols in his apartment and all rifles are at another location. How would this LEO be able to "check out" rifles if they are indeed not in his apartment?

sometimes it is much easier to simply say you misread something rather than changing the reason for lashing out every time you are questioned.

You accused him of not understanding the law, you didn't tell him that the cop would never see the gun if he went through his house. It might also be wise to think that perhaps the OP isn't revealing the entirety of his collection here on an open forum. Finally, he said he was at the build party so perhaps there were no long guns in the apartment when the cop asked but now the gun he was building is temporarily (or permanently) in the apt.

[powderedtoastman]

SCREW THE LEO. He has no right to come into your place without a warrant. Your collection (as your multiple life choices) are non of his business. He has no business in your personal life. He's there to enforce the law - and has no reason to believe you're breaking it.

Your wife? Already discussed. God love her support and enthusiasm - she simply needs to learn discretion.

^^THIS!^^ Crap like this pisses me the F off. Also, it is a statement about the world we live in. When I visit my family in Utah, when the subject of guns is brought up, excitement is the general emotion. In certain places here, ignorant fear is the emotion. Makes me want to vomit.