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Hayward gun buyback event: Saturday 10am-3pm, south Hayward BART station
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"If the misery of the poor be caused not by the laws of nature,
but by our institutions, great is our sin."
-- Charles Darwin
NRA Life, CRPA Life, SASS Life, NRA Certified Pistol Instructor & Range Safety Officer, FSC Instructor -
Correct me if I am wrong, but is this or is this not an ideal circumstance for criminals to dispose of a weapon used in an unsolved murder or other violent crime by exploiting the clear amnesty that the authorities are offering?
So, what would your preference be? A felon or criminal in possession of the evidence that could be used against them to ensure a conviction or a criminal using the the bogus buyback to destroy evidence linking them to any crime?
I believe that detering cooperation with organized efforts to remove firearms from the 'streets' will make the law-abiding reconsider taking the gun into a firearms dealer (would be helpful if they were on the spot) as well as freak out the bad guys who deserve to sweat out their guilt for their criminal enterprises.
These gun 'buybacks' do not make the public 'safer' no matter how you spin it. A felon in possession of a stolen gun or a gun used in a crime (or even one that hasnt) is a GOOD thing- because it establishes a chain of evidence that will build a case against them in court if they happen to be caught with it.

Sometimes the law defends plunder and participates in it. Sometimes the law places the whole apparatus of judges, police, prisons and gendarmes at the service of the plunderers, and treats the victim -- when he defends himself -- as a criminal. Bastiat
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I live a few miles away from South Hayward BART. Last year, our house was burglarized and several firearms were among the items stolen. If the thief sold my guns to the Hayward Police, would the police be required to return them to me? The serial numbers were given in the original police report.Comment
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In all fairness... yes, there have been a number of Bolt action shotguns made.
Mossberg making the most.. such as -
Mossberg Model 190
Mossberg 195K-A
Mossberg 185 D-B
Mossberg 20 gauge Model 85-A
There are more...
Marlin (Glenfield) also made the Model 55 SuperGoose that was a bolt action shotgun.
As well as other companies such as JC Higgins... and Stevens with their Mod.59A in .410.Last edited by GOEX FFF; 10-31-2010, 9:32 PM.Comment
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What a great way to get rid of a murder weapon...Comment
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How's that working Hayward? With this annual buy back, I'd assume that they've "disarmed" pretty much every dangerous situation in Hayward by now?http://sanfrancisco.cbslocal.com/201...buy-back-event
Perhaps the time to sell some AK flats
Hayward Police Holding Gun Buy-Back Event disarm dangerous situations in Hayward before they happenannual gun buy-back"What is a moderate interpretation of the text? Halfway between what it really means and what you'd like it to mean?"
-Antonin Scalia, Supreme Court Justice
"Know guns, know peace, know safety. No guns, no peace, no safety.
I like my guns like the left likes their voters-"undocumented".Comment
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It is indeed a perfect way for a criminal to dispose of a murder weapon-NO questions asked AND they get PAID for it.Correct me if I am wrong, but is this or is this not an ideal circumstance for criminals to dispose of a weapon used in an unsolved murder or other violent crime by exploiting the clear amnesty that the authorities are offering?
So, what would your preference be? A felon or criminal in possession of the evidence that could be used against them to ensure a conviction or a criminal using the the bogus buyback to destroy evidence linking them to any crime?
I believe that detering cooperation with organized efforts to remove firearms from the 'streets' will make the law-abiding reconsider taking the gun into a firearms dealer (would be helpful if they were on the spot) as well as freak out the bad guys who deserve to sweat out their guilt for their criminal enterprises.
These gun 'buybacks' do not make the public 'safer' no matter how you spin it. A felon in possession of a stolen gun or a gun used in a crime (or even one that hasnt) is a GOOD thing- because it establishes a chain of evidence that will build a case against them in court if they happen to be caught with it."What is a moderate interpretation of the text? Halfway between what it really means and what you'd like it to mean?"
-Antonin Scalia, Supreme Court Justice
"Know guns, know peace, know safety. No guns, no peace, no safety.
I like my guns like the left likes their voters-"undocumented".Comment
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A great opportunity, indeed, for any criminals who are too stupid to figure out how to render their murder weapon unrecognizable with a stolen angle grinder or welding torch.Comment
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I couldn't agree more. Very well put.I consider a gun buy-back to be comparable to a book-burning. While a book-burning might be a convenient way to get rid of one's unwanted heretical texts, it fosters disrespect for a fundamental right and perpetuates ignorant ideas about objects having some inherent evil separate from the actions of their owners.Comment
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Well stated . . . I wish I had written that.. . . I consider a gun buy-back to be comparable to a book-burning. While a book-burning might be a convenient way to get rid of one's unwanted heretical texts, it fosters disrespect for a fundamental right and perpetuates ignorant ideas about objects having some inherent evil separate from the actions of their owners.Comment
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So how much has crime dropped in Hayward since this event? My bet is on 0%.sigpic
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Ezell v. Chicago
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