Hi all,sorry if dupe or wrong section-Anyone checkout Chelene Nightingale for Gov.'?

[DisgruntledReaper]

Hi all,first let me say to the Mod Gods to move as you see fit if this is in the wrong area. Also if this is a dupe sorry..

http://www.nightingaleforgovernor.com/issues#YourRights

I have been checking out this Lady's website, she is campaigning under the 'Constitutional Party ' and a Tea Party member/candidate.

She seems to have the right ideas,especially regarding the US Constitution including the right to bear arms , own basically what you want, etc..period..

So I have not heard anything on her on the radio including NPR...getting tooooo left for me,although she was on KFI recently.

I should call KPCC and give them crap since I donated to keep a couple still decent programs running...

So I dont know, go have a look and check her out......

All I have to say is-

Boxer needs to 'go away'
Brown-another lifer poli****in-no thanks
Whitman---not really enthused ....I would rather try Chelene as Gov.....but...

Basically need to get ALLL the cretins out of BallSacremento and ban the lobby groups here and in DC. I am all for rocking the boat...

C-YA!!!

[bwiese]

She's pretty much a nutbird that needs a connection with reality.

However if you feel you can't do a pure pro-gun-only vote for Brown, a vote for her is better than for the noted antigun Whitman.

[383green]

She visited here a while back. It didn't go well. Lots of drama. Obvious signs of competence and honesty were not abundant among her alleged campaign staff.

[OleCuss]

Interestingly, however, I heard some snippets of an interview she did on KFIV (1360) and in the parts I heard she sounded pretty informed and solid. Much better than I expected based on the experience on the forum.

If I thought she had a snowball's chance in Hades I'd probably look at her again and see if a lot of her problem was her staff. As it is, I don't figure it's worth bothering to find and listen to the full interview.

No offense to Chelene intended.

[boxbro]

She and her campaign staff are kooks and liars.
Read this:

http://www.calguns.net/calgunforum/showthread.php?t=255936

If you don't want to read the entire thread, this post says just about everything that happened:

http://www.calguns.net/calgunforum/showpost.php?p=3600029&postcount=218

[DisgruntledReaper]

WHOA! I did not know these things....

'She's pretty much a nutbird that needs a connection with reality.

However if you feel you can't do a pure pro-gun-only vote for Brown, a vote for her is better than for the noted antigun Whitman. '

Bwiese---Brown IS progun?? Seems like everytime I look at his stance on issues he comes off as a total 'more gov,screw you and your rights' type-!?!?!?
Plus I have a BIG distrust for 99+% of lifer politicians...too much on the 'payroll'...and since he did a stint in the cancerous bay area....well...
That and I kind of remember his past and the crap my parents would say and my parents are not liberal or Obummer supporters..

Seems like in the end we constantly get effed no matter who we vote for because they all turn on us in one form or another.

[stix213]

One thing is for certain, either Brown or Whitman will win. Its a little late in the game for a complete unknown to make an impact. Promoting whoever this is back in February instead of October would have been a better idea. At this point you can:

1) Vote for Brown, who as AG could have caused drama in the OLL movement but conspicuously hasn't
2) Vote for Whitman, who has stated that she likes CA gun laws as they are now
3) Don't vote, which is the same as voting for anyone else

A vote for anyone other than Brown or Whitman isn't "wasted" per say, but its a lot like voting for Ralph Nader for president

[NightOwl]

Brown is not pro-gun. Brown is less anti-gun than Whitman.

Chelene Nightengale or Dale Ogden are both pro-gun. Ogden is a reasonably sensible individual without the "nutbird" issues that Nightengale has associated with her. Nightengale is prettier.

[Glock22Fan]

Not all this again!

The contest is, like it or not, between Brown and Whitman. Anyone else is a wasted vote that might make you feel good but won't help you get anything you want (from either aforementioned candidates).

Brown has done quite a bit for the 2nd since being A.G. Whitman has a record (words and deeds) of not liking guns.

(Nightowl, if you don't know why Brown is not not pro gun, you simply haven't been reading the right threads and keeping your ears open.)

Maybe you want to vote Whitman because you don't like some other aspect of Brown.

If so, don't come on here pretending that guns are important to you, because clearly they aren't.

[stix213]

Jerry Brown wrote this on behalf of the state of California in favor of incorporation of the 2A in McDonald vs Chicago.

INTEREST OF AMICUS CURIAE
California has a strong interest in protecting
the constitutional rights of its citizens. But unlike
many states, California has no state constitutional
counterpart to the Second Amendment. Unless the
protections of the Second Amendment extend to
citizens living in the States as well as to those living
in federal enclaves, California citizens could be
deprived of the constitutional right to possess
handguns in their homes as affirmed in District of
Columbia v. Heller, 128 S. Ct. 2783 (2008).
INTRODUCTION
This Court recently held that the Second
Amendment prevents the federal government from
denying citizens the right to possess handguns in
their homes. District of Columbia v. Heller, 128 S.
Ct. 2783 (2008). But the decision did not resolve the
more important question of whether this limitation
applies to the States through the Fourteenth
Amendment. The petitions in these cases should be
granted so the Court may address this question. In
granting the petitions and ruling upon the merits,
the Court should extend to the states Heller’s core
Second-Amendment holding that the government
cannot deny citizens the right to possess handguns in
their homes, but also provide guidance on the scope
of the States’ ability to reasonably regulate firearms.

http://www.chicagoguncase.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/07/california_cert_stage.pdf

Jerry Brown wrote that himself and more, and he sure sounds like one of us other than defending the handgun roster. He didn't have to stick his neck out in support of 2A incorporation, and that's good enough for me.
/rant

[OleCuss]

I'll still likely vote for Brown, but if the MAWP situation does not get resolved expeditiously I'm going to be strongly reconsidering that intention.

[bwiese]

I'll still likely vote for Brown, but if the MAWP situation does not get resolved expeditiously I'm going to be strongly reconsidering that intention.

The MAWP situation is fixable at a much lower level.
Natives went off the reservation with Chief's back turned.

(apologies to BillyJack)

[OleCuss]

The MAWP situation is fixable at a much lower level.
Natives went off the reservation with Chief's back turned.

(apologies to BillyJack)

That's good to know. Thank you.

[wheels]

Interestingly, however, I heard some snippets of an interview she did on KFIV (1360) and in the parts I heard she sounded pretty informed and solid. Much better than I expected based on the experience on the forum.

If I thought she had a snowball's chance in Hades I'd probably look at her again and see if a lot of her problem was her staff. As it is, I don't figure it's worth bothering to find and listen to the full interview.

No offense to Chelene intended.

I'm listening to the KFIV interview, she sounds a lot sharper than Brown, who sounded a bit goofy in the debate with Whitman.

[darkwater]

According to a recent poll, Brown has pulled ahead of Whitman, about 49% to her 44%, thanks to the illegal alien nanny incident. Here's hoping that everyone gets so tired of the mud-slinging ads from both majority parties that we all vote for one of the independent party candidates on Nov. 2nd...we'd need a miracle! (no, I'm not smoking anything, really...that law hasn't passed yet)