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  • #46
    Vox
    Member
    • Apr 2009
    • 215

    Originally posted by thayne
    and saldina has the nerve to say OC'rs are causing a drain on police resources?!?!?!?
    I was ocing and a drain on police resources. The entire detatchment of my contract city's sheriff's department were dispatched to my location as I OCd walking around my neighborhood...
    lefty friend, "But why would you need that kind of gun?"
    me, "I don't understand the question"

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    • #47
      IGOTDIRT4U
      I need a LIFE!!
      • Oct 2006
      • 10861

      Fellow rights advocates have their say:



      Thursday, July 15, 2010
      Spoofing the Anti's

      Oh, those crazy kids at CalGuns.net. They planned a pro-gun demonstration at the annual fund-raising dinner for the Legal Community Against Violence in San Francisco. Only they didn't show. It was a spoof from the beginning as they knew LCAV monitored their message board. They wanted to get LCAV all hot and bothered and worried. It worked.

      From the last post explaining their actions:

      Maskirovka: "The means of securing combat operations and the daily activities of forces; a complexity of measures, directed to mislead the enemy regarding the presence and disposition of forces, various military objectives, their condition, combat readiness and operations, and also the plans of the commander... maskirovka contributes to the achievement of surprise for the actions of forces, the preservation of combat readiness and the increased survivability of objectives." - source: Jon Latimer, Deception in War, The Overlook Press, Woodstock & New York 2001

      I’m sure that many of you are curious about the results of the LCAV protest. Well, they hired extra security, alerted the hotel to the potential for protests and apparently called in the SFPD to intimidate us.

      But we never planned to show in the first place.

      As much fun as it would have been to organize a great big ruckus, it was much more fun watching them scramble about in fear that the gun nuts were going to heap insult upon the injury of McDonald at their pyrrhic victory dinner.

      And we didn’t have to expend an ounce of energy.

      What was the point?

      Well, we learned a bunch.

      1) That past actions have convinced them to take us seriously. Calgunner attendance at City Council meetings, legislative hearings and court cases has demonstrated that we’re able to mobilize a motivated group of activists on short notice. We’ve proven to them that we show up. We’ve shown that we’re effective, too. Emeryville’s revision of their proposed ammunition ordinance proved that.

      2) That they’re paying attention to us. We long suspected that LCAV was monitoring our communications. It’s one of the reasons that CGF boardmembers are circumspect when discussing legal strategies. So, please be patient when folks are using cryptic language to discuss options for regaining our rights.

      3) That now they don’t know when we’re bluffing. We’ve spoofed them twice so far. Who knows what other kinds of wild goose chases we can send them on? It will be fun to learn.

      4) That they’re afraid of us. Despite my assertions (and requirements) that this “action” not allow any physical contact, trespassing, etc., LCAV felt it necessary to mobilize the police and additional security.

      5) That they’re irrational. In every interaction that we’ve had with the antis, we’ve been polite. We’ve been well dressed, well spoken, chivalrous and respectful. We’ve been met with profanities, threats and incivility. I wouldn’t be surprised if local officials are starting to take notice the difference in style.

      Make no mistake, folks. We’re winning this fight.

      Sometimes it's not what you do, but what the other side thinks that you're willing to do that causes the most disruption.

      I’d like to offer up a special thanks to all the folks who came together to make this happen. This was a fun little exercise.

      Calgunners rock!
      Read the whole thread to see the anticipated demonstration. It really starts to move along at page 3.

      Were the Calgunners taken seriously? Yes they were. Ezra Denney was the LCAV staffer in charge of the event. On his Facebook page he put that they "might be meeting some wacky folks tonight. Protesters are fun!"

      The San Francisco PD showed up in full force with extra motorcycle and bicycle cops assigned to the dinner and anticipated protest. And as they said on the CalGuns.net board, "on this date in San Francisco: nothing happened." You can see the pictures of the additional cops here.

      I started to read their preparations last night and they had me totally fooled. From the discussions, I was expecting some sort of Code Pink demo with pictures of protesters being led away in handcuffs.Checking back this morning I found out that nothing had happened.

      It was brilliant. Absolutely brilliant.
      Posted by John Richardson at 8:07 AM
      Labels: CalGuns, LCAV, San Francisco
      "Over-sentimentality, over-softness, in fact washiness and mushiness are the great dangers of this age and of this people. Unless we keep the barbarian virtue, gaining the civilized ones will be of little avail." - Theodore Roosevelt

      Would you people please stop bashing "Elmer Fudd?" After all, he was an avid sportsman, hunter, and 2a supporter. -Ed in Sac
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      • #48
        GP3
        Senior Member
        • Aug 2008
        • 1392

        I don't understand how the hell you guys were able to tell everyone to stand down, while publicly organizing everyone to show up!!! So confused, but good job.

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        • #49
          383green
          Veteran Member
          • Jan 2006
          • 4328

          Originally posted by GP3
          I don't understand how the hell you guys were able to tell everyone to stand down, while publicly organizing everyone to show up!!! So confused, but good job.
          We coordinate via sub-ether quantum entanglement transmissions.
          They don't care about your stupid guns! --Mitch
          Mark J. Blair, NF6X

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          • #50
            SIGscout
            Member
            • Aug 2008
            • 216

            huzzah!!

            That was pretty F****** ninja!

            I am so proud to be an active, donating member to CGF.
            The best part about rights is that you can see who's in the wrong when they need protection from shadows and other peoples opinions.
            When someone asks how may guns do you need, the proper answer is, "How many are there?"

            Cal Guns stuff http://www.gunsr4.us/index.html

            Donate http://www.calguns.net/calgunforum/s...d.php?t=108030

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            • #51
              IGOTDIRT4U
              I need a LIFE!!
              • Oct 2006
              • 10861

              Originally posted by 383green
              We coordinate via sub-ether quantum entanglement transmissions.
              And smoke signals. Keeps the natives on their toes.
              "Over-sentimentality, over-softness, in fact washiness and mushiness are the great dangers of this age and of this people. Unless we keep the barbarian virtue, gaining the civilized ones will be of little avail." - Theodore Roosevelt

              Would you people please stop bashing "Elmer Fudd?" After all, he was an avid sportsman, hunter, and 2a supporter. -Ed in Sac
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              • #52
                383green
                Veteran Member
                • Jan 2006
                • 4328

                Originally posted by IGOTDIRT4U
                And smoke signals. Keeps the natives on their toes.
                By the way, everybody: Don't forget to deprecate your one-time pads.
                They don't care about your stupid guns! --Mitch
                Mark J. Blair, NF6X

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                • #53
                  jdberger
                  CGN/CGSSA Contributor
                  CGN Contributor
                  • Oct 2005
                  • 8944

                  Originally posted by IGOTDIRT4U
                  And smoke signals. Keeps the natives on their toes.
                  semaphore.

                  See that kooky guy on the corner wildly gesticulating? He's our top signals man.

                  There's also this guy with the coded messages.

                  Rest in Peace - Andrew Breitbart. A true student of Alinsky.

                  90% of winning is simply showing up.

                  "Let's not lose sight of how much we reduced our carbon footprint by telecommuting this protest." 383green

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                  • #54
                    383green
                    Veteran Member
                    • Jan 2006
                    • 4328

                    I bet they never even found the dead drop in the keynote speaker's trousers.
                    They don't care about your stupid guns! --Mitch
                    Mark J. Blair, NF6X

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                    • #55
                      dantodd
                      Calguns Addict
                      • Aug 2009
                      • 9360

                      Originally posted by 383green
                      By the way, everybody: Don't forget to deprecate your one-time pads.
                      Aren't we still using "Rule for Radicals" 2nd edition, 3rd printing?
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                      • #56
                        383green
                        Veteran Member
                        • Jan 2006
                        • 4328

                        Originally posted by dantodd
                        Aren't we still using "Rule for Radicals" 2nd edition, 3rd printing?
                        3.14159264th printing.
                        They don't care about your stupid guns! --Mitch
                        Mark J. Blair, NF6X

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                        • #57
                          dantodd
                          Calguns Addict
                          • Aug 2009
                          • 9360

                          Originally posted by 383green
                          I bet they never even found the dead drop in the keynote speaker's trousers.
                          From what I've heard they should have looked in his back pocket.
                          Coyote Point Armory
                          341 Beach Road
                          Burlingame CA 94010
                          650-315-2210
                          http://CoyotePointArmory.com

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                          • #58
                            383green
                            Veteran Member
                            • Jan 2006
                            • 4328

                            Originally posted by dantodd
                            From what I've heard they should have looked in his back pocket.
                            That was the live drop. Everybody knows about that one.
                            They don't care about your stupid guns! --Mitch
                            Mark J. Blair, NF6X

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                            • #59
                              dantodd
                              Calguns Addict
                              • Aug 2009
                              • 9360

                              Originally posted by creekside
                              In haste:

                              1) I have no connection to CalGuns except a forum account. I am a scrupulously law abiding gun owner who may or may not have decided to watch the free show, exercise one or more of my Constitutional rights, or even shop in downtown San Francisco and add to the sales tax revenue. The pm addressed to me by CalGuns was a tactfully worded suggestion that I respectfully acknowledged -- but did not actually change or influence my actions.
                              Good to know. I was just checking, I'd hate to have someone there who didn't know what was REALLY happening. It would mean that someone fell through the cracks and obviously it is critical that those coordinating the operation do not let that happen.

                              Originally posted by creekside
                              2) I overheard inside a business open to the public an SFPD officer explain to a curious person that the additional heavy police presence was due to a "non violence conference" and "protestors connected with the 'open carry' movement.". The officer clarified that 'open carry' referred to carrying unloaded guns in public. The officer carried in a back pocket a folded stack of paper that had a SFPD logo showing, which from context was probably his detail instructions. Several officers were seen with similar packets.
                              I wonder if that document is PRAR'able. And note that while CalGuns.net is not part of the "open carry movement" that nuance will be lost on 99% of the population and the officers didn't say (according to this post) that there was an OC event planned only that the people showing up were involved with the OC movement.
                              Coyote Point Armory
                              341 Beach Road
                              Burlingame CA 94010
                              650-315-2210
                              http://CoyotePointArmory.com

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                              • #60
                                nick
                                CGN/CGSSA Contributor
                                CGN Contributor
                                • Aug 2008
                                • 19143

                                Originally posted by 383green
                                We coordinate via sub-ether quantum entanglement transmissions.
                                Oh, that's what it's called. I always wondered how it works, and it takes an EE to put it into terms a human can understand.
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