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  • #16
    Dr Rockso
    Veteran Member
    • Jan 2008
    • 3701

    Originally posted by 510shooter510
    Wait a minute! You mean to tell me that we can carry a loaded magazine on our person while UOC'ing? Or am i reading this wrong? I think what I am reading is: have empty mag in gun, and keep loaded mag in pocket???
    If you didn't know that then you shouldn't be UOCing. Actually scratch that...nobody should be UOCing at the moment. But yes, you can legally carry a loaded magazine. It is recommended that the magazine be carried exposed on a belt due to case law that could be construed to define your concealed magazine as a concealed firearm.

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    • #17
      GrizzlyGuy
      Gun Runner to The Stars
      CGN Contributor - Lifetime
      • May 2009
      • 5468

      Originally posted by 510shooter510
      Wait a minute! You mean to tell me that we can carry a loaded magazine on our person while UOC'ing? Or am i reading this wrong? I think what I am reading is: have empty mag in gun, and keep loaded mag in pocket???
      See the open carry flyer, carrying loaded mags are OK, just not in the gun and not concealed.
      Gun law complexity got you down? Get the FAQs, Jack!

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      • #18
        510shooter510
        Member
        • Jun 2009
        • 378

        I have never nor do i intend to UOC. Just amazed that this is possible. Did not know the rules on this issue. So UOC means:
        1. Open carried gun with unloaded mag inserted
        2. Loaded mags on belt also open carried
        Well, I learn something new everyday

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        • #19
          Cokebottle
          Seņor Member
          CGN Contributor - Lifetime
          • Oct 2009
          • 32373

          Originally posted by 510shooter510
          I have never nor do i intend to UOC. Just amazed that this is possible. Did not know the rules on this issue. So UOC means:
          1. Open carried gun with or without unloaded mag inserted
          2. Loaded mags on belt also open carried
          Well, I learn something new everyday
          Yes.
          - Rich

          Originally posted by dantodd
          A just government will not be overthrown by force or violence because the people have no incentive to overthrow a just government. If a small minority of people attempt such an insurrection to grab power and enslave the people, the RKBA of the whole is our insurance against their success.

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          • #20
            yelohamr
            Senior Member
            • Sep 2009
            • 1402

            If you UOC a revolver:
            1) Draw revolver
            2) Take bullet from shirt poicket
            3) Open cylinder
            4) Insert bullet
            5) Close cylinder
            6) Keep pulling trigger until you hear a loud noise
            Repeat as needed.

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            • #21
              goodlookin1
              Veteran Member
              • Apr 2009
              • 2557

              Simply carrying a firearm in plain view, with loaded magazine on the hip or without one, may deter some nutter goblin from trying to pull something.

              Second, not all crimes involve a millisecond reaction to save your life. IE: Some lone gunman walks into the store you're in and starts blazin. You may be on the other side of the store and have plenty of time to pop in the loaded mag that's on your hip. Now you're ready to roll, and, by the grace of God, potentially save lives.

              Sure, it's not ideal like a CCW, but when it's nearly impossible to get licensed for one, it is the second best choice. I'd just make dang sure that you know that wherever you are, it is legal to open carry there. I dont have a specific example, but I know that there are some city limits (probably berkeley, san fran, etc) that have laws against open carry.
              www.FirearmReviews.net

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              • #22
                Quser.619
                Senior Member
                • Aug 2009
                • 777

                Originally posted by goodlookin1
                Simply carrying a firearm in plain view, with loaded magazine on the hip or without one, may deter some nutter goblin from trying to pull something.

                Second, not all crimes involve a millisecond reaction to save your life. IE: Some lone gunman walks into the store you're in and starts blazin. You may be on the other side of the store and have plenty of time to pop in the loaded mag that's on your hip. Now you're ready to roll, and, by the grace of God, potentially save lives.

                Sure, it's not ideal like a CCW, but when it's nearly impossible to get licensed for one, it is the second best choice. I'd just make dang sure that you know that wherever you are, it is legal to open carry there. I dont have a specific example, but I know that there are some city limits (probably berkeley, san fran, etc) that have laws against open carry.
                I'm under the impression that since the state allows Open Carry, no city can infringe that right unless nearby a school or government building

                Personally I wouldn't love my guns to much to have them taken & held while it is sorted out through the local courts
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                • #23
                  goodlookin1
                  Veteran Member
                  • Apr 2009
                  • 2557

                  Originally posted by Quser.619
                  I'm under the impression that since the state allows Open Carry, no city can infringe that right unless nearby a school or government building

                  Personally I wouldn't love my guns to much to have them taken & held while it is sorted out through the local courts
                  As per CaliforniaOpenCarry.org:

                  Where can I legally Open Carry?

                  Loaded Open Carry is legal in your home, temporary residence or campsite (unless otherwise prohibited), place of business, private property, and in areas of unicorporated territiry where shooting is not prohibited, including many areas within National Forest and BLM lands.

                  Unloaded Open Carry is legal anywhere except the following places:
                  # areas restricted by local city or county ordinance, often including regional parks
                  www.FirearmReviews.net

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                  • #24
                    510shooter510
                    Member
                    • Jun 2009
                    • 378

                    what is local public building? Walmart?

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                    • #25
                      Cokebottle
                      Seņor Member
                      CGN Contributor - Lifetime
                      • Oct 2009
                      • 32373

                      Originally posted by 510shooter510
                      what is local public building? Walmart?
                      Government-owned building.
                      Literally, "public property" as in owned by the "public".
                      - Rich

                      Originally posted by dantodd
                      A just government will not be overthrown by force or violence because the people have no incentive to overthrow a just government. If a small minority of people attempt such an insurrection to grab power and enslave the people, the RKBA of the whole is our insurance against their success.

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                      • #26
                        KylaGWolf
                        Senior Member
                        • Jul 2008
                        • 1698

                        OK if you are open carrying you can legally have an unloaded magazine in the gun. If it is in a locked case it is legal too. The reason some prefer to have the empty magazine in the gun is to keep some guessing if it is actually loaded (read bad guy). Also it will supposedly keep dust out of the gun.

                        Someone said it gives you an extra step if you for some reason have to load said gun. Even having that extra step I can still drop the empty magazine and load in a magazine that is ready to go. Then again I am disabled so I don't run anywhere. Most of the time I am not even walking fast.
                        "I declare to you that women must not depend upon the protection of man, but must be taught to protect herself, and there I take my stand." Susan B. Anthony

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