Benchmade Pen - Legality

[Shane916]

I wasn't able to find a previous discussion on the topic so I posted this. In regards to CA laws regarding the Benchmade Pen the only applicable PC I found was 12020/653k...which states:

(19) As used in this section, a "writing pen knife" means a device
that appears to be a writing pen but has concealed within it a
pointed, metallic shaft that is designed to be a stabbing instrument
which is exposed by mechanical action or gravity which locks into
place when extended or the pointed, metallic shaft is exposed by the
removal of the cap or cover on the device.

Based upon this PC it seems that their pens are legal as they have no mechanical action? The point is neither concealed nor covered per say. Am I missing a thread on this? Is there another PC that covers such a device?

[boxbro]

I wasn't able to find a previous discussion on the topic so I posted this. In regards to CA laws regarding the Benchmade Pen the only applicable PC I found was 12020/653k...which states:



Based upon this PC it seems that their pens are legal as they have no mechanical action? The point is neither concealed nor covered per say. Am I missing a thread on this? Is there another PC that covers such a device?

A cop and or DA with an agenda might call it a dirk.

[Alan Block]

They forgot the spoooooooon.

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[Nose Nuggets]

^ where's the spoon?


in regards to the OP, i don't think the Benchmade pen is a stabbing instrument. Its not designed to penetrate, its to be used for pain compliance and small joint manipulation like a kubotan.

[Sgt Raven]

^ where's the spoon?


in regards to the OP, i don't think the Benchmade pen is a stabbing instrument. Its not designed to penetrate, its to be used for pain compliance and small joint manipulation like a kubotan.

A standard Cross pen can be used as a stabbing instrument.

[savageevo]

Just say its a letter opener and call it a day.

[riprap]

Another option:

http://www.extremeoutfitters.us/timberlinelightcombatpen.aspx

[Shane916]

Another option:

http://www.extremeoutfitters.us/timb...combatpen.aspx

Intriguing. I like that design better. Much more subtle.

[Jason762]

Another option:

http://www.extremeoutfitters.us/timb...combatpen.aspx

Intriguing. I like that design better. Much more subtle.

That's the one I have. I don't write with it often, but I like it. My only complaint is that if you don't push the cap on hard enough, the pen body will separate from the cap.

[dexter9659]

It is a pen, which may be used as a blunt tip defensive device. I was told this by the designers. I spose if you really wanted to stretch a definition, you could wave a red one in the air really fast and call it a tracer round pen.

[gun toting monkeyboy]

I like this one better. But I figure the kubaton concept is a bit more subtle.

http://www.trueswords.com/cold-steel-sharkie-p-3229.html

[CnCFunFactory]

Speaking hypothetically. I could drive a standard "Bic" pen deep enough into a persons throat (or any soft tissue for that matter) with enough force to significantly ruin their day. That way I don't dirty up my hundred dollar pen or worse leave a serialized item at the, *clear throat*, scene, ya know while I go get help for the said receiver of my thirty cent force multiplier. Speaking hypothetically of course.

PS I own one and they are nice but the surefire pen is my choice for daily "writing" needs. It doesn't have the end that the benchmade has but could be used plenty effectively and not have the issue that sparked your original question.

[lazuris]

Having played with one honestly it sucks. The cap is secured via a snap/o-ring lock that doesn't lock up well and feels like it will come loose. Also its profile is rather agressive that kinda goes both ways in terms of its it a pen or a puncture devise. I perfer this one http://store.mil-tac.com/index.asp?P...TS&Category=38

[savageevo]

Its how you word it if an Leo ask what that is. Any pen can be used as a dirk or dagger. With enough force to the eyeball, Im sure it will permanently hinder the attacker. Its what you describe it to be. Im sure any sane person will not say " Gee officer that pen is my weapon to mame someone"

[Nose Nuggets]

A standard Cross pen can be used as a stabbing instrument.

hahaha, suffice to say. but its all in the intent, i could stab you to death with a rusty spoon if i was so inclined. i could do an equal amount of pressure pain or joint manipulation with a thumb.

and that, ladies and gents, is why all these laws are so laughable to begin with.