Santa Clara County Deputy stops UOCer for "loaded check"

[Liberty1]

http://opencarry.mywowbb.com/forum12/26316.html

posted by "bad ace"

Had my second run in with the Santa Clara county sheriffs department today. It went very smoothly.

I passed the deputy while walking the dog. He was outside of his cruiser on the side of the road questioning some rough looking 20 year old on a BMX bike (thought I heard something about dope). As I passed he noticed my sidearm and walked up to me. Conversation went like this.

Deputy: Excuse me sir, I need to take a quick second of your time.
Me: (healing dog and having him sit)
Deputy: Hi how ya' doin' names Kevin. (firm handshake)
Me: (gave name)
Deputy: Nice to meet you. Unloaded right?
Me: Yes sir.
Deputy: OK mind if I check real quick?
Me: Sure sure.
Deputy: Pull it out for me.
Me: You want me to do it?
Deputy: Yeah go ahead...
Me: ( I unholster my Beretta 92FS, open the slide and tilt the open action toward him)
Right on. (when he saw the empty chamber)
Me: No brass?
Deputy: No brass. Can you flip it over so I can see the backside? Pull that mag out for me. Alright.
( I holster my sidearm )
<small talk starts>

Total time of 'e' check: 20 seconds. I maintained control of my property the entire time. I wasn't asked for ID and no serial number check. I call this a win for UOC in Santa Clara county (Cupertino).

You can find the audio here http://truelibertypodcast.com/audio/...ay_25_2009.mp3

[Turo]

awesome! wish all the UOC stories were this short and sweet. I may start to do it.

[redbull addict]

Nice!

[N6ATF]

awesome! wish all the UOC stories were this short and sweet. I may start to do it.

I don't. Can't wait for the day when we are not treated as guilty until proven innocent by ALL peace officers we encounter.

[odysseus]

So you keep an empty mag in the well when carrying?

[Texas Boy]

Wow - very professional on both sides. The deputy performed his duty in a polite and courteous manor, didn't draw his weapon or over react, etc. Hopefully this means CA LEO's are getting the msg that UOCers are not a threat.

[bwiese]

Individual is lucky.

We are hearing of the presence of a Santa Clara Cty memo that says UOCer situations can be treated like "full felony stops" - meaning armed confrontation on the part of the deputy/ies.

Frankly if I were to remotely consider UOCing in SC County, I'd at least have a vest or trauma plate on.

[Gio]

So you keep an empty mag in the well when carrying?

Sounded like it to me, I was under the assumption that we had to carry without a mag in the magwell evenif empty. I guess not Also are the school zones enforced on weekends and holidays as well? I would open carry but I live near school zones at both my residencies.

-Gio

[Gio]

Individual is lucky.

We are hearing of the presence of a Santa Clara Cty memo that says UOCer situations can be treated like "full felony stops" - meaning armed confrontation on the part of the deputy/ies.

Frankly if I were to remotely consider UOCing in SC County, I'd at least have a vest or trauma plate on.

FOr reals? Whatever happened to Innocent until proven Guilty? If a Officer has a right to Felony stop you for a openly carried firearm then that is just ridiculous! Oh well, better get my vest soon then

-Gio

[Liberty1]

...Hopefully this means CA LEO's are getting the msg that UOCers are not a threat.

Some are and some won't listen. Still a very civil exchange considering the unconstitutionality of PC 12031.

[Liberty1]

Also are the school zones enforced on weekends and holidays as well?

-Gio

K-12 24/7

[gotshotgun?]

I kind of agree with you riodog but at the same time the folks that are carrying are doing it for a reason greater than personal defense, they are trying to change a cultural reaction.

[Vtec44]

the folks that are carrying are doing it for a reason greater than personal defense, they are trying to change a cultural reaction.

Although I don't open carry myself, but I fully support those that are doing it. It's not about personal defense and more about changing public opinion.

[Liberty1]

2. Why don't you just wear a T-shirt that says "Quote Removed" if you need people to notice you?

I always find it interesting when fellow gun owners use the antis' phallic arguments.

You may otherwise have a decent argument which Gene has on occasion expressed a little more eloquently

[Turbinator]

This happened in Cupertino? Wow! I'm impressed it went off so smoothly. Thanks for alerting us to this successful outcome.

Turby