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Ban suicide, gangs and career criminals and the problem is solved.Thermidorian Reaction . . Prepare for it.We know they are lying, they know they are lying, they know we know they are lying, we know they know we know they are lying, but they are still lying. ~ Solzhenitsyn -
Thats great. The press whips people into a violent, dangerous frenzy every day and then advocates talking our gun rights away....This state is like hellComment
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Why is anybody even reading the L.A. Times?Comment
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The comments section of the Times is very pro-gun. Didn't think the Times expected that.Comment
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The most disturbing sentence in the entire piece is this:
"Even if you do believe in the Second Amendment"...
WTF??? "Even" if you do?? So, even if you do believe in the Constitution.......Comment
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Would be funny if another group set up an Autonomous Zone around the Times building...gosh, we'd come help you Times, but with all the restrictions in CA, we'd be very under-gunned with only 10 round mags, featureless ARs with canted grips more suited for plinking, etc. Better let the police do it...oh, they quit or were defunded?
All animals are equal but some animals are more equal than others. -George Orwell, Animal Farm
If both the past and the external world exist only in the mind, and if the mind itself is controllable, what then? -George Orwell, 1984
In a time of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act. -George Orwell
You're off the edge of the map, mate. Here there be monsters. -Captain BarbossaComment
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Anti-2A was going to be one of the big election drivers, they invested tons of money in it, however the virus and riots messed it up. Our liberal counterparts put it away for some time, now they are getting it out to see if the political temperature is right to continue cooking it.Comment
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And if the LA Times had A (singular) brain among them, they'd take it out and play with it.
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Reads like an 8th grade research paper.
Women shoot themselves to death far less often than men,
the New England Journal of Medicine tracked nearly 700,000 Californians who bought their first gun between 2004 and 2016, and followed them for up to 12 years and 2 months . It found that men were eight times as likely to shoot themselves over the 12 years after that first gun purchase than nongun owners.All posts dedicated to the memory of Stronzo Bestiale
"You want my sister but now scam my Glocks too?
How about my sister? what can she do now? Still virgin and need Glcok."
---ARegularGuy
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Sure it doesOne life so don't blow it......Always die with your boots on!Comment
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The study is linked here:
The most obvious statement that every 2A advocate knows is that there is no correlation between gun control and the gun homicide rate; you have states like Massachusetts that have strict gun control and a low gun homicide rate, but you also have places like California and DC that have strict gun control and a rather bad gun homicide rate.
What I really hate about these advocacy studies is that they know beforehand the above is true. But hey, there's lies, d--- lies, and statistics. The study didn't analyze real world data. What the study did was pump out a bunch of different simulations with with fake laws (they even misspelled fictitious) and then try to pick the "one" that attempted to "match" the current real world data set :
Hallelujah, wouldn't you know that their choice simulation is the one that predicted a 3% rise in gun homicides if carry laws were relaxed! Of course, it should be noted that in reality, 100% of the states that relaxed their carry laws since the mid 90's have all seen their gun homicide rate decrease (often by half the rate it was in the mid-90s)*. In other words, I do question the actual predictive accuracy of this model, even though they claim it the model creates numbers that match current real-world figures.In these simulations, we estimated the effects of random, fictious [sic] laws on the real firearm death data used as the outcome in the present study
I have other criticisms of this study. For starters the gun homicide rate itself probably has very little to do with the actual right-to-carry laws. How do I know this? Because 80% of gun homicide deaths are gang and drug related. Most of the people dying are themselves gangbangers, criminals, and those who probably would never consider getting a carry license. This is precisely why in many lax gun-law states that have large urban centers, you still have a high gun homicide rate. But of course, that doesn't mean that right-to-carry laws haven't had a hugely positive and impactful effect on the law abiding gun owners that have gotten CCW licenses.
Next time you a see study done by some advocacy group, you should take a look and see what the study is actually doing. Is it evaluating real world data? Or is it like this, which decided to just do some bogus simulations and call it a day?
* To be completely fair, all crime has decreased in all states since the mid 90's. There's nuances that I won't get into here.Comment
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