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  • #31
    Nvidkiller
    Member
    • May 2015
    • 176

    Originally posted by Nick_
    I estimate 1-5 million mags were legally bought this past week. Would have to see numbers from the larger retailers for wensday/thursday/friday...prior to then it was easily one million.




    The Police Chief in my city hadnt even heard of the judges ruling and def did not receive any notification from the Attorney General. Maybe the magazine limit is just a DOJ enforcement thing. I just dont think regular Police would ever bother with it.... And if a criminal has possession of a gun and is arrested for it, I doubt adding on some infraction for standard capacity mag would be a priority.
    It wouldn't be a small infraction if it was inserted into the wrong type of rifle. Would be an unregistered assault weapon charge. Personally, I've never heard of anyone getting bothered for standard cap mags.
    Last edited by Nvidkiller; 04-06-2019, 12:53 AM.

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    • #32
      Nick_
      Junior Member
      • Mar 2019
      • 21

      Originally posted by Nvidkiller
      It wouldn't be a small infraction if it was inserted into a fixed mag rifle. Would be an unregistered assault weapon charge
      True, I was thinking standard mags for handguns.

      But everyone has read the sticky: Dont use 10+ mags in fixed mag rifles, so we are all fine here.

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      • #33
        caliberetta
        Veteran Member
        • Jan 2014
        • 2750

        There are about 4million gun owners in California.

        The window of time to buy standard mags was very narrow. Only a fraction of them had enough time (and confidence) to take swift action.

        Let's try to be conservative and call it 20%.

        20% of 4 million people = 800,000 people.

        How many mags, on the average, was each person who took action able to get?

        Let's try to be conservative and call it 5.

        5 mags x 800,000 people = 4 million mags.

        That's my low-end guess.
        Last edited by caliberetta; 04-06-2019, 1:43 AM.

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        • #34
          gabe123
          Member
          • Jul 2009
          • 491

          there were many magazine part kits sold in CA up to several years ago. There are many 10/30 ar mags sold every year. The past week just legalize 20 years of worth of "gray area" mags.

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          • #35
            isntzen
            Senior Member
            • Jan 2018
            • 605

            Originally posted by caliberetta
            The window of time to buy standard mags was very narrow.
            How many mags, on the average, was each person who took action able to get?

            Let's try to be conservative and call it 5.
            Zero offence intended, but:


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            • #36
              Tokarevman
              Member
              • Jul 2015
              • 313

              6 million... and no, unlike the "official" version, this number is not a hoax.

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              • #37
                harry1904
                Junior Member
                • May 2018
                • 4

                I'm deleting this. I think this thread is full of DOJs. Btw to answer the op's question, hmm maybe 10 millions were sold.
                Last edited by harry1904; 04-06-2019, 2:32 AM.

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                • #38
                  CALI-gula
                  Calguns Addict
                  • Jan 2006
                  • 6730

                  Originally posted by caliberetta
                  There are about 4million gun owners in California.

                  The window of time to buy standard mags was very narrow. Only a fraction of them had enough time (and confidence) to take swift action.

                  Let's try to be conservative and call it 20%.

                  20% of 4 million people = 800,000 people.

                  How many mags, on the average, was each person who took action able to get?

                  Let's try to be conservative and call it 5.

                  5 mags x 800,000 people = 4 million mags.

                  That's my low-end guess.
                  Some of you are being very generous with your fantasies, or very creative with your poetic license.

                  Try to be conservative? Actually, try to be wild with your guesses, but base it in reality, and you come up with a number somewhere around 250,000 sold.

                  The vote against Prop-63 in the first place couldn't scare up a significant vote against it, and that would have included non-gun owners anyway.

                  And when it came time to signing a petition to fight it and several other bad guns bills, those supposed 800,000 gun owners on the "conservative" spectrum couldn't muster more than 150,000 signatures, and that went on for months. So on short notice, at best, awareness of this lift of the mag ban would have only reached bout 50,000 gun owners.

                  Another way to quantify that 50,000?

                  In reality, there were only about 22,600 active members here on Calguns prior to the news of the mag-ban overturn. By today, it was about 24,700. So we added only about 2,100 active members, not counting maybe a few thousand of those who are duplicate accounts and shills.

                  Now account for another 25,000 or so "actively in the know" gun owners or even passive sots that got wind of it, lucky to have learned of this recent ruling who are not Calguns.net members, and you get roughly only 50,000 buyers.

                  Take your average of 5 mags per buyer, which makes sense, because not everyone showed up to the party on time or bought as many, nor would have if they were outfitted from pre-2000 and hundreds of re-build kits due to that long window of time, and you get about 250,000 magazines sold, which in all realistic consideration toward awareness, the numbers seen on other issues, the apathy of gun owners, the depleted inventories as retailers were caught off guard, and as noted above that many were late to the game - and that 250,000 is a much more likely number of those sold in CA.

                  That's an honest number.

                  I would bet some, if not the majority of those gun owners, were only learning of the temporary buying allowance today, which left them no amount of time to act.

                  250,000 mags sold seems more like a real number.

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                  • #39
                    Tokarevman
                    Member
                    • Jul 2015
                    • 313

                    Originally posted by harry1904
                    Not really. Just making sure it's legit everything i do. Last year some FBI kicked my door down. Found some high cap magazines in my underwear drawer and took them all. Just glad i didn't have any of them loaded. Just wish I could get them back too.
                    Why do I think this is BS?
                    Did you mention this -event- last year?

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                    • #40
                      CALI-gula
                      Calguns Addict
                      • Jan 2006
                      • 6730

                      Originally posted by harry1904
                      Not really. Just making sure it's legit everything i do. Last year some FBI kicked my door down. Found some high cap magazines in my underwear drawer and took them all. Just glad i didn't have any of them loaded. Just wish I could get them back too.
                      ...in the video game you were playing at the time.




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                      • #41
                        harry1904
                        Junior Member
                        • May 2018
                        • 4

                        Something like that..

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                        • #42
                          Waffleobill
                          Senior Member
                          • May 2012
                          • 882

                          Originally posted by Unbekannt
                          Gavin, kids are selling standard mags on street corners now.
                          And for a brief moment in Communist California, that was a lawful act.
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                          • #43
                            b18bturboek9
                            Senior Member
                            • Dec 2006
                            • 800

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                            • #44
                              Waffleobill
                              Senior Member
                              • May 2012
                              • 882

                              Originally posted by Nvidkiller
                              It wouldn't be a small infraction if it was inserted into the wrong type of rifle. Would be an unregistered assault weapon charge. Personally, I've never heard of anyone getting bothered for standard cap mags.
                              Bull****! Anytime anyone gets busted with a gun they make sure everybody knows the gun was loaded with a 15 round magazine, or there was no magazine locking device installed on the gun, or the serial number was filed off, or the bullets had been dipped in Siracha! Any infraction / misdemeanor discovered that is related to the weapon is publicized by LE and the media to make all gun owners look like heartless, imbecellic criminals.
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                              • #45
                                Donkeypunch0420
                                Senior Member
                                • Mar 2009
                                • 1460

                                Originally posted by CitaDeL
                                My estimates...

                                ~2-3 million sold by internet retail.
                                ~250,000 sold at in state brick and mortar retailers.
                                ~100,000 sold at out of state brick and mortar retailers and imported by purchasers.
                                ~200,000-400,000 blocked or riveted magazines were put into liberty mode.
                                Don't forget the possible millions of rebuild kits that were finally assembled.

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