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  • #16
    hawk1
    In Memoriam
    • Dec 2005
    • 7555

    Originally posted by Dr Rockso
    Not so sure about that, the argument against the shoestring was that when attached to the firearm it acted as an auto-sear (when the bolt closed the string pulled the trigger). The stick-on-a-stock doesn't mechanically interface with the gun in the same manner, it just pulls the trigger as the gun recoils.

    I see no difference in the examples I put in bold above. Both are causing the trigger to be pulled by actions of the rifle.
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    • #17
      sorensen440
      Calguns Addict
      • Mar 2007
      • 8611

      Creative but no thanks
      "I would rather be exposed to the inconveniences attending too much liberty than to those attending too small a degree of it." - Thomas Jefferson

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      • #18
        bohoki
        I need a LIFE!!
        • Jan 2006
        • 20787

        federally it looks ok but any "firing aid" in california can be called a multiburst trigger activator since it is overly vague and undefinable
        i guess this is the origional

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        • #19
          Justin Brimm
          Junior Member
          • Sep 2008
          • 22

          Originally posted by hawk1
          I see no difference in the examples I put in bold above. Both are causing the trigger to be pulled by actions of the rifle.
          I'm going with this; honestly, its not California I'd be concerned about going after you in this case. The ATF will be plenty happy to send you to jail for the rest of your life for using that stock stick.

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          • #20
            bohoki
            I need a LIFE!!
            • Jan 2006
            • 20787

            its not a "gun stock" it is a stock for a trigger stick

            it is a "stick stock" it is an unsafe way to fire a gun

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            • #21
              Quiet
              retired Goon
              • Mar 2007
              • 30241

              As long as it's not attached to the firearm, it can't be a "multiburst trigger activator".

              Penal Code 12020
              (c)(23) As used in this section, a "multiburst trigger activator" means one of the following devices:
              (A) A device designed or redesigned to be attached to a semiautomatic firearm which allows the firearm to discharge two or more shots in a burst by activating the device.
              (B) A manual or power-driven trigger activating device constructed and designed so that when attached to a semiautomatic firearm it increases the rate of fire of that firearm.
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              • #22
                Nodda Duma
                • Nov 2007
                • 3455

                IMO those things are dumb anyways because of the unregulated firing rate.

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                • #23
                  Blue
                  Calguns Addict
                  • Oct 2005
                  • 8068

                  Originally posted by leelaw
                  That was an idea born on AR15.com years back. I remember the bumpfire videos posted back when the idea first came to be.
                  I remember that, didn't the inventor get harassed by the ATF for it?
                  Lord, make my hand fast and accurate.
                  Let my aim be true and my hand faster
                  than those who would seek to destroy me.
                  Grant me victory over my foes and those who wish to do harm to me and mine.
                  Let not my last thought be 'If I only had my gun."
                  And Lord, if today is truly the day you call me home, let me die in an empty pile of brass.
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                  • #24
                    motorhead
                    Veteran Member
                    • Jan 2008
                    • 3409

                    it looks like fun so of course it's illegal.
                    it does appear at least from a distance, that it could be disguised as a burger flipper.
                    didn't atf do a flip-flop and declare the accelerator illegal?
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                    • #25
                      SwissFluCase
                      CGN/CGSSA Contributor
                      • Jul 2008
                      • 1322

                      Originally posted by motorhead
                      it looks like fun so of course it's illegal.
                      it does appear at least from a distance, that it could be disguised as a burger flipper.
                      didn't atf do a flip-flop and declare the accelerator illegal?
                      Yes. They approved the Atkins Accelorator, then later declared it to be a machinegun. The latter ruling seems like a real stretch, but I would have no desire to be a test case. Any voluteers?

                      Regards,


                      SwissFluCase
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                      • #26
                        GMONEY
                        Senior Member
                        • Nov 2007
                        • 1921

                        Risk vs Reward on this one is a FAIL!

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                        • #27
                          JeffM
                          Veteran Member
                          • Sep 2007
                          • 4359

                          Originally posted by hawk1
                          I see no difference in the examples I put in bold above. Both are causing the trigger to be pulled by actions of the rifle.
                          With the stock/stick above, the trigger cannot be pulled unless the person firing the weapon is actively pushing forward on the rifle.

                          I see no real difference between this and regular bump firing.

                          Would I do this? No.

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                          • #28
                            Quiet
                            retired Goon
                            • Mar 2007
                            • 30241

                            Originally posted by SwissFluCase
                            Yes. They approved the Atkins Accelorator, then later declared it to be a machinegun. The latter ruling seems like a real stretch, but I would have no desire to be a test case. Any voluteers?

                            Regards,


                            SwissFluCase
                            After the Heller SCOTUS case, William Akins appealed the BATFE ruling to the 11th circuit court.

                            On 02-04-2009, the court ruled in favor of the BATFE.

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                            "If someone has a gun and is trying to kill you, it would be reasonable to shoot back with your own gun." - Dalai Lama (Seattle Times, 05-15-2001).

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