AB 1135 Clarification of New Assault Weapon Definition and Required Registration

[advocatusdiaboli]

I would opine that the butt plate telescopes out of the stock body and is therefore a telescoping stock.

I thought the bill made any semi-auto centerfire rifle an AW so featureless build don't matter any more. I guess the wording changed since I last read the bill.

[ke6guj]

I thought the bill made any semi-auto centerfire rifle an AW so featureless build don't matter any more. I guess the wording changed since I last read the bill.

nope, that language was in other bills, not this one. this one was aimed at maglocks like the Bullet Button.

other bills were aimed at featureless rifles like the M1a, Mini-14, etc.

[advocatusdiaboli]

nope, that language was in other bills, not this one. this one was aimed at maglocks like the Bullet Button.

other bills were aimed at featureless rifles like the M1a, Mini-14, etc.

Made my day: "I'm going featureless!!!"
Because I sure as ***** ain't registering since registration is only useful for confiscation and nothing else.

[advocatusdiaboli]

Thorsden is going to be a popular shop after the latest bill.
Just visited their site, orders are pouring in and they are asking people to be patient.

[captainsavaho]

How about those AR and AK pistols, can they be

featureless by having ARMAGLOCK or Prince50 and

thus not require AW registration?

[bajadan]

How about those AR and AK pistols, can they be

featureless by having ARMAGLOCK or Prince50 and

thus not require AW registration?

No such thing as featureless pistols

[ke6guj]

No such thing as featureless pistols

sure there is. a Glock 34 is a featureless pistol (as it applies to AW features).

a semi-automatic pistol that has a fixed-magazine, as defined, may still have features.

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[advocatusdiaboli]

sure there is. a Glock 34 is a featureless pistol (as it applies to AW features).

a semi-automatic pistol that has a fixed-magazine, as defined, may still have features.

<rant>
Just move to Washington State and buy-build an SBR.
I am done with this wacko-run state.
Sorry, Just fed up.
</rant>

[bravofortysix]

My simple analysis of this.

The legislature has determined that any form of mag lock device that doesn't require the disassembly of the action, is now considered a detachable mag. And as such, rifles and pistols that have a detachable mag and meet the definition of AW need to be registered.

So they are basically letting the citizens of CA register legally purchased weapons that meet the new definition of an AW. And actually allowing citizens for the next 6 months, to purchase new weapons that will meet the definition of an AW as of 1-1-2017.

They've basically opened-up AW registration (something they've tried not to do in the past).

You now have 6 months to purchase and legally own weapons in CA that you never thought you could own. And once registered, weapons under the 30" rule (i.e., Side folders, underfolders, bullpups).

Will we be able to get rid of mag-locks (i.e., bullet buttons)? If the current wording of the bill treats a mag-lock the same as a non-mag-lock, what's the difference? In the eyes of the legislators and current bill, your bullet button is the same as a regular mag release. It is now an AW like all other AW's.

No where in the below registration requirements from the bill does it require "OAL" or configuration. It fact, it's worded very similarly to the original registration requirements (which didn't require any description on how it was configured).

Maybe I'll be proven wrong, but that's how I see it for now.



Original registration requirements:



Should you register or go featureless? It's your call. I had the same decision to make 15 years ago. I decided to go featureless and get rid of what the state called AW's. And have regretted that decision for several years. I also knew of people that didn't want to register. Now they have a State deemed AW that they can never take out and shoot due to fear of prosecution.

So if your worried about confiscation, being in some database, restrictions on use, or not being able to hand down firearms to your heirs, don't register. Just remember you may regret that decision like I have one day.

Also keep in mind, that after 1-1-2017, you can still walk into any gun shop and buy a lower to build a featureless rifle.

Good points.

[advocatusdiaboli]

Good points.

No, not good points at all: myopic and here is why...

If legislators fear and loathe Was so much, why are they opening up purchases of them for a short period?
Because there is another shoe to drop after this.
And another. And another.
This is just the first step.

To get an idea of their potential follow on plan in a year or so after registration closes look to the other big anti-gun state, New York.

NY State did tis very registration tactic and, then, NYC passed a law prohibiting any rifle that could hold over 5 rounds (any accepting a detachable mag or built-in mag over 5) and used the registration database to send demand letters for turning them in or affidavits they were sold or moved permanently out of state with serious penalties.

They fear and hate AWs and they will not let you keep them long term.
They are just moving their chess pieces one at a time.

Do what you want, but do it with your eyes wide open.

[advocatusdiaboli]

Are we in the Briar Patch yet?

No and we never will be.

That analogy is an anachronism harkening back to a day when the Scalia court gave us Heller and McDonald and we looked to the SCOTUS as the penultimate protector of gun rights.

The idea being that, if the antis in California pushed their control measures far enough over the line, the black-robed justices, angry at being defied and armed with the twin swords of McDonald and Heller, would ride in and save gun rights in California.

Ain't gonna happen with the current court (as is obvious from their behavior with gun cases) and Hillary will appoint at least one if not two justices who will certainly be vetted to ensure they are anti-gun rights.

Free states will likely remain free, but infringing states won't be reined in either as the last two AWB denials of writs at the SCOTUS show.

Try to stay on Planet Earth here with us and come up to speed. That was then, this is now.

[Hollywood_Shooter]

Should you register or go featureless? It's your call. I had the same decision to make 15 years ago. I decided to go featureless and get rid of what the state called AW's. And have regretted that decision for several years.

Why did you regret the decision to go featureless?

[Dump1567]

Why did you regret the decision to go featureless?

I just wish I had kept some non-neutered firearms.

It's probably like all things. You always want what you can't have, or regret getting rid of guns you wished you had kept.