A CA constitutional amendment - 1 county, 1 Senator

[wireless]

Overturning Reynolds v Sims is the oft-mentioned plan B of the State of Jefferson movement. They've got a few different things brewing in the background that should at least ease the terrible situation in California if they should fall short of statehood.

From what I understand Evenwel v. Abbott forces the states use voter population instead of total population for redistricting? Would Evenwel v. Abbott force CA to change their senate proportioning based on total population or would it force CA to appoint an even amount of senators to each district/county?

[BluNorthern]

I'm in.

Get rid of the Electoral College on the national level too.

[Dutch3]

I'm in.

Get rid of the Electoral College on the national level too.

^ This.

I am getting very tired of my presidential vote being meaningless.

[Untamed1972]

I agree with you.....nothing specifically pro-gun is gonna fly at the moment.

We need to look at the deeper problem which is a broken, corrupt, one-party rule state Gov't.

Anything which can change that balance of power needs to be seriously looked at, because LA and SF should not be able to dominate the entire state.

[Untamed1972]

I'm in.

Get rid of the Electoral College on the national level too.

^ This.

I am getting very tired of my presidential vote being meaningless.

Or at a minimum have CA apportion its electoral votes based on the percentage of votes for each side rather than the winner take all deal it is now.

[chris]

California is ran by bay area politicians none from so cal none from northern California none from central California. this entire state is subject to a very tiny minority.

a ban should be instituted that no politician from San Francisco, Oakland or Marin counties should be allowed to run for or hold office and that goes triple for the idiots in LA county.

[chris]

I'm in.

Get rid of the Electoral College on the national level too.

no do not get rid of it.do you want large state with huge liberal voting blocks to control the country?

because that would happen only states with large populations would control the country and smaller states would have absolutely no say at all. that is not how our country is set up.

I do believe however that the winner take all needs to end in this state and others. that would force candidates to work for once. to get rid of what was bequeathed to us by far better men that idiots who are in office today is foolish.

[wireless]

From what I understand Evenwel v. Abbott forces the states use voter population instead of total population for redistricting? Would Evenwel v. Abbott force CA to change their senate proportioning based on total population or would it force CA to appoint an even amount of senators to each district/county?

[ddestruel]

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/volokh-conspiracy/wp/2016/04/04/thoughts-on-todays-one-person-one-vote-decision/

Evenwel v. Abbott ruling is out:


if im understanding the ruling it looks like your idea might have some legs after all

[Tmckinney]

So a small minority of people in these little tiny sparsley populated counties ahould have all the same power over state law as the whole of the population of L.A. County? Isnt this the same kind of unfair bull**** people on this board always scream about? Where are your principles?

How about a unicammeral legislature and party list voting? That way all the rebulicans can be one big viting blaock and not spread out. Urban conservatives can join forces with rural conservatives.

[Jimi Jah]

I like it. That, and do away with career politicians. Make them all part time, with little to no long term benefits, and we might actually get a few people there for the right (no pun intended) reasons.

The state government is one of the largest institutions/employers in the state, if not the largest. It's the political/industrial complex.

The business of government is business and they are the business, in business.

None of them will let go of their gravey train without a drag-down fight to the death. Look at what the threats the Trump campaign has done to the republican party establishment.

If these upset republicans had attacked Obama as severly as they have attacked Trump, McCain or Romney would be president today. They are far more afraid of loosing their power base than they are loosing a few elections.

[speedrrracer]

So a small minority of people in these little tiny sparsley populated counties ahould have all the same power over state law as the whole of the population of L.A. County? Isnt this the same kind of unfair bull**** people on this board always scream about? Where are your principles?

Yet the Senators from Hawaii have as much power as the Senators from California, and the Senate was created by the Founders for precisely that reason. Are you anti-American? Where are your principles?

The entire point of our bicameral federal legislature is so that the smaller states have a voice in their government. Right now, in CA, the smaller counties have no voice, and Librarian is floating a hail-mary idea to change that, by mirroring more closely that federal system.

If you had been reading, you would have learned that Librarian's proposal doesn't change the assembly, so you needn't fear -- your beloved LA & SF will still have hordes of assembly people giving free stuff to illegal aliens and other criminals.

[ddestruel]

[CBR_rider]

I see both political parties opposing it simply because it removes their ability to gerrymander the state senate seats.... I think it is a brilliant and do I dare say truly progressive plan. Which means it will never happen in CA.

[pacrat]

I see both political parties opposing it simply because it removes their ability to gerrymander the state senate seats.... I think it is a brilliant and do I dare say truly progressive plan. Which means it will never happen in CA.

As to the bolded. That is exactly how the US Senate is set up. 2 per state no matter population density. And that system has been working for 243 yrs.

What I personally see as a cancer in Ca that negatively influences politics. Is that the Dem Big Cities, are where the majority of both, PubSec Union members and welfare cases reside. Combined, they are the largest block of voters in the state. And they both owe allegiance to the Dems. as benefactors.