AB574 Manditory Registration of all of your guns

[Scota4570]

This one caught me by surprise. What is going on? Have lawsuits been filed. Neither CRPA or NRA will speak to me about it.

https://leginfo.legislature.ca.gov/faces/billTextClient.xhtml?bill_id=202320240AB574

"This bill would, beginning on March 1, 2025, additionally require the register or record to include the acknowledgment by the purchaser or transferee that they have, within the past 30 days, confirmed possession of every firearm that they own or possess."
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Moved - Bill discussions are 'Politics'

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[abinsinia]

(30) Yes or no answer to a question that inquires whether the purchaser has, within the past 30 days, checked and confirmed possession of all firearms currently owned or possessed.

I wonder what happens if you mark "No",

[Scota4570]

I would guess lying in the form is a felony. Being a felon would forfeit your gun rights.

[abinsinia]

I would guess lying in the form is a felony. Being a felon would forfeit your gun rights.

What if you just mark No and it's not a lie ?

[Scota4570]

If the law means that you must provide a list of all of your guns to the DOJ when purchasing a gun that is one interpenetration. That is a problem.

IF the means I have looked at my guns in the safe recently that is a different matter.

What does the law mean?

[jwkincal]

Seems to just mean "yeah I promise that I know where all my guns are"

[SkyHawk]

Regardless of what you answer (yes or no are the only two options) - how could they ever prove or disprove that you answered correctly. Also it is a semi-nonsensical question. "Did you confirm that you possess what you currently possessed?" DaFuq?

28160. (a) For all firearms, the register or record of electronic transfer shall include all of the following information:

(31) Yes or no answer to a question that inquires whether the purchaser has, within the past 30 days, checked and confirmed possession of all firearms currently owned or possessed

[abinsinia]

Regardless of what you answer (yes or no are the only two options) - how could they ever prove or disprove that you answered correctly. Also it is a semi-nonsensical question. "Did you confirm that you possess what you currently possessed?" DaFuq?

28160. (a) For all firearms, the register or record of electronic transfer shall include all of the following information:

(31) Yes or no answer to a question that inquires whether the purchaser has, within the past 30 days, checked and confirmed possession of all firearms currently owned or possessed

For example you mark yes, then they discover one of your guns was used in a crime in the prior 30 days when you said you knew where all your guns are. So basically they discover you lied on the form, or you may have. I'm not sure what happens in that case, do they arrest you ?

Is seems the play is to jackpot gun owners if you mark Yes.

[TrappedinCalifornia]

I haven't read the bill.

What is being or will be used as the basis for confirming possession of every firearm that is owned or possessed?

We know that the State's records are far from up-to-date.

[guntrust]

I hereby confirm possession of all firearms currently owned or possessed, morons.

[pacrat]

* YRS AGO ..... https://youtu.be/Z6Dj8tdSC1A

And still doing same o same o. I don't remember any discussion of this turd in 2023.

[lastinline]

For example you mark yes, then they discover one of your guns was used in a crime in the prior 30 days when you said you knew where all your guns are. So basically they discover you lied on the form, or you may have. I'm not sure what happens in that case, do they arrest you ?

Is seems the play is to jackpot gun owners if you mark Yes.

The follow on to that may eventually come as a prohibition on ownership, with being listed as “armed prohibited person” or something similar. The nice ball licking agents can then show up at your door and try to talk their way inside.

[abinsinia]

This bill would, beginning on March 1, 2025, additionally require the register or record to include the acknowledgment by the purchaser or transferee that they have, within the past 30 days, confirmed possession of every firearm that they own or possess.

Per this line from the description, it seems the intent of the law was/is to require you to mark "Yes" otherwise the sale doesn't happen. It doesn't say this in the law tho.

[The Gleam]

Go ahead, pass it. I will lie, say yes, and dutifully ignore it if it becomes law.

I own many guns - legally - which they do not know about, there is no record with the CA DOJ, that were never subject to a DROS, there is no record in AFS, all of which is also legal in my continued ownership, for which they will continue to not know about - and can go pound sand, preferably in a cow pasture.

I hope the above has done well to signal and clarify my viewpoint of this bill, and convey what will inevitably be how I address it should this nonsense become law.

I trust and am confident that we will not need a question-and-answer session today, or any other day.

Sending my regards... and Merry Christmas.

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[The Gleam]

Regardless of what you answer (yes or no are the only two options) - how could they ever prove or disprove that you answered correctly. Also it is a semi-nonsensical question. "Did you confirm that you possess what you currently possessed?" DaFuq?

What can be, unpossessed by what has been.

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