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  • #91
    abinsinia
    Veteran Member
    • Feb 2015
    • 3788

    NOTICE OF ORAL ARGUMENT on Wednesday, March 6, 2024 - 09:00 A.M. - Courtroom 1 - Scheduled Location: Pasadena CA

    View the Oral Argument Calendar for your case here.

    NOTE: Although your case is currently scheduled for oral argument, the panel may decide to submit the case on the briefs instead. See Fed. R. App. P. 34. Absent further order of the court, if the court does determine that oral argument is required in this case, you are expected to appear in person at the Courthouse. If an in person appearance would pose a hardship, you must file a motion for permission to appear remotely by video, using ACMS filing type Motion to Appear Remotely for Oral Argument. Such a motion must be filed within 7 days of this notice, absent exigent circumstances. Everyone appearing in person must review and comply with our Protocols for In Person Hearings, available here. If the panel determines that it will hold oral argument in your case, the Clerk's Office will contact you directly at least two weeks before the set argument date to review any requirements for in person appearance or to make any necessary arrangements for a remote appearance that has been approved or directed by the panel.

    Please note that if you do file a motion to appear remotely, the court strongly prefers video over telephone appearance. Therefore, if you wish to appear remotely by telephone you will need to justify that request in your motion and receive explicit permission to do so.

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    • #92
      Liberty Rules
      Member
      • Mar 2006
      • 273

      The oral arguments before the 9th Circuit merits panel were held today. Below is the link to the video of the hearing. This case starts at 47 minutes in. I have not listened to the whole hearing yet so have no comments on substance of the hearing.

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      • #93
        abinsinia
        Veteran Member
        • Feb 2015
        • 3788

        Two Biden judges, and one horrible Hawaii judge.

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        • #94
          abinsinia
          Veteran Member
          • Feb 2015
          • 3788

          3-0 loss. they will use interest balancing, and claim that you can just go down the street and buy a guns etc..

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          • #95
            AlmostHeaven
            Veteran Member
            • Apr 2023
            • 3808

            Originally posted by abinsinia
            3-0 loss. they will use interest balancing, and claim that you can just go down the street and buy a guns etc..
            It is sad how the outcome depends not on the law, but instead on the judges. The trials and hearings are meaningless performances.
            A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed.

            The Second Amendment makes us citizens, not subjects. All other enumerated rights are meaningless without gun rights.

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            • #96
              Sgt Raven
              Veteran Member
              • Dec 2005
              • 3645

              I think this is the same case.



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              DILLIGAF
              "Never attribute to malice that which can be adequately explained by stupidity, but don't rule out malice"
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              • #97
                AlmostHeaven
                Veteran Member
                • Apr 2023
                • 3808

                Has the the Ninth Circuit also placed a hold pending Duncan v. Bonta, or has the case simply gone into purgatory due to the 3-judge panel writing an opinion?
                A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed.

                The Second Amendment makes us citizens, not subjects. All other enumerated rights are meaningless without gun rights.

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                • #98
                  Ishooter
                  Senior Member
                  • Mar 2010
                  • 863

                  Is this the same case?
                  ttps://ktla.com/news/california/u-s-9th-circuit-court-upholds-californias-gun-sale-restrictions/

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                  • #99
                    Librarian
                    Admin and Poltergeist
                    CGN Contributor - Lifetime
                    • Oct 2005
                    • 44586

                    Yes.

                    See Kostas Moros on X, https://x.com/MorosKostas/status/1800599539902279753
                    OK, we got our expected terrible ruling in B&L Productions v. Bonta, our challenge to two gun show bans (we won one and lost one in the district courts, and they were consolidated on appeal). A thread on this awful ruling that re-implements interest balancing, and also manages to do damage to the First Amendment.
                    and
                    [QUOTE]
                    This is incredibly bad faith. So under this panel's read of the law, the gun show can exist and do everything EXCEPT the buyer accepting the sale offer. But obviously, how would that even work? Would you just stare at gun offers to maybe buy later, and then plainclothes DOJ
                    narcs are walking around in case anyone says "oh wow, I agree to buy this gun!", and then shutdown the show?[/QUOTE]

                    ((Weird - forum insists on inserting an extra set of [endquote][startquote] tags, and I can't get rid of them!))
                    Last edited by Librarian; 06-12-2024, 4:39 PM.
                    ARCHIVED Calguns Foundation Wiki here: http://web.archive.org/web/201908310...itle=Main_Page

                    Frozen in 2015, it is falling out of date and I can no longer edit the content. But much of it is still good!

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                    • abinsinia
                      Veteran Member
                      • Feb 2015
                      • 3788

                      Here's the actual ruling,


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                      • abinsinia
                        Veteran Member
                        • Feb 2015
                        • 3788

                        (IN CHAMBERS) ORDER by Judge John W. Holcomb: In view of the issuance of the Mandate [ECF No. 64], the parties are DIRECTED to meet and confer forthwith regarding the posture of the case and to file a Joint Status Report no later October 11, 2024, that advises the Court regarding the posture of the case and a proposed case schedule. If the parties cannot agree on a case schedule, then the parties shall provide the Court with (a) the parties' respective proposed case schedules; (b) each party's justification therefor; and (c) each party's objections to the other party's proposed case. A Scheduling Conference is SET for Friday, October 25, 2024, at 11:00 a.m. Counsel for the parties are DIRECTED to appear in person in Courtroom 9D, on the 9th Floor of the Ronald Reagan Federal Building and United States Courthouse at 411 W. Fourth Street Santa Ana, California, at that date and time. IT IS SO ORDERED.THERE IS NO PDF DOCUMENT ASSOCIATED WITH THIS ENTRY. (cla) TEXT ONLY ENTRY (Entered: 09/26/2024)
                        Resent order at the district court level.

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                        • Sgt Raven
                          Veteran Member
                          • Dec 2005
                          • 3645

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                          DILLIGAF
                          "Never attribute to malice that which can be adequately explained by stupidity, but don't rule out malice"
                          "Once is Happenstance, Twice is Coincidence, Thrice is Enemy Action"
                          "The flak is always heaviest, when you're over the target"

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