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  • BAJ475
    Calguns Addict
    • Jul 2014
    • 5066

    Going to last post is not working!

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    • Sgt Raven
      Veteran Member
      • Dec 2005
      • 3806

      Originally posted by Bhobbs
      Since when has Heller actually stopped anything anti gun? Heller was obliterated with the two step method. Easterbrook certainly doesn't care about Heller. He doesn't care about SCOTUS, even after they "slapped him down".

      Easterbrook is butt hurt he wasn't picked as a Justice.

      Thank God he and Garland are not on SCOTUS.
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      • JiuJitsu
        Member
        • Dec 2020
        • 345

        A number of circuits and judges are absolutely abusing the 2nd Amendment in preliminary injunctions and stay decisions. They are not even following precedent and proper analysis. And meanwhile we the people have our constitutional rights hosed for literally years and years. This wouldn?t happen for other rights. This needs to stop.

        SCOTUS needs to weigh in and stop this abuse. Or can it even be stopped? What clarification or decision would help this situation?

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        • AlmostHeaven
          Veteran Member
          • Apr 2023
          • 3808

          Calguns frequently exhibits a strange phenomenon where threads get stuck and stop displaying new posts until a sufficient number of subsequent replies occur.
          A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed.

          The Second Amendment makes us citizens, not subjects. All other enumerated rights are meaningless without gun rights.

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          • SpudmanWP
            CGN/CGSSA Contributor
            CGN Contributor
            • Jul 2017
            • 1156

            Originally posted by Bhobbs
            Since when has Heller actually stopped anything anti gun? Heller was obliterated with the two step method. Easterbrook certainly doesn't care about Heller. He doesn't care about SCOTUS, even after they "slapped him down".
            While they did let the "interest balancing" cancer spread post-Heller, it's clear that Bruen is a pivotal point in both respecting 2A rights and how Heller set the foundation of the THT test.

            Obviously, we'll have to wait and see how they continue to support Heller's instructions.

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            • JiuJitsu
              Member
              • Dec 2020
              • 345

              Originally posted by SpudmanWP
              While they did let the "interest balancing" cancer spread post-Heller, it's clear that Bruen is a pivotal point in both respecting 2A rights and how Heller set the foundation of the THT test.

              Obviously, we'll have to wait and see how they continue to support Heller's instructions.
              I also wish SCOTUS could issue guidance to force inferior courts to use proper application of preliminary injunctions in 2A cases. They skip over most of the requirements and just say "the state is likely to prevail on the merits" and "the state will be harmed if we allow this" constitutional right to be shredded. Really? Lots of interest balancing is still being used in all of these decisions.

              These judges know full well they are wrong here but do this anyway.

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              • ar15barrels
                I need a LIFE!!
                • Jan 2006
                • 56983

                Originally posted by BAJ475
                Won't go page 161.
                Post 6404 is on page 129.
                What's going to happen in 32 more pages?
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                • Sgt Raven
                  Veteran Member
                  • Dec 2005
                  • 3806

                  Originally posted by ar15barrels
                  Post 6404 is on page 129.
                  What's going to happen in 32 more pages?

                  In your profile options, under thread display options, you can set it to display from 10 to 50 posts per page. I always set the posts per page to the maximum allowed by whichever software the forum is running.


                  ETA: I just changed to forum default and this post is on page 161. I'm going to change it back to 50 per page, which will be on page 129.
                  Last edited by Sgt Raven; 11-04-2023, 1:33 AM.
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                  • ar15barrels
                    I need a LIFE!!
                    • Jan 2006
                    • 56983

                    I know all about that as I use 50 posts per page.
                    Tell Baj475 as he is the one still stuck on 40 posts per page.

                    Originally posted by Sgt Raven
                    In your profile options, under thread display options, you can set it to display from 10 to 50 posts per page. I always set the posts per page to the maximum allowed by whichever software the forum is running.
                    Randall Rausch

                    AR work: www.ar15barrels.com
                    Bolt actions: www.700barrels.com
                    Foreign Semi Autos: www.akbarrels.com
                    Barrel, sight and trigger work on most pistols and shotguns.
                    Most work performed while-you-wait.

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                    • Ishooter
                      Senior Member
                      • Mar 2010
                      • 904

                      The shooting in Maine will probably put a halt on this case. The 7th circuit court just upheld the AW ban of Illinois yesterday.

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                      • AlmostHeaven
                        Veteran Member
                        • Apr 2023
                        • 3808

                        Originally posted by Ishooter
                        The shooting in Maine will probably put a halt on this case. The 7th circuit court just upheld the AW ban of Illinois yesterday.
                        The Lewiston mass shooting will fall out of the news cycle by Thanksgiving. It will have no bearing on the ultimate final judgment in Miller v. Bonta any more than Parkland or Uvalde.
                        A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed.

                        The Second Amendment makes us citizens, not subjects. All other enumerated rights are meaningless without gun rights.

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                        • Sgt Raven
                          Veteran Member
                          • Dec 2005
                          • 3806

                          ^^^^^^^^^^


                          The US Army and all levels of Maine Law Enforcement Agencies were given fair warnings about the shooter. The only question is, "was it Incompetence, Malfeasance, or Malice" that kept them from acting on the information?
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                          DILLIGAF
                          "Never attribute to malice that which can be adequately explained by stupidity, but don't rule out malice"
                          "Once is Happenstance, Twice is Coincidence, Thrice is Enemy Action"
                          "The flak is always heaviest, when you're over the target"

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                          • RickD427
                            CGN/CGSSA Contributor - Lifetime
                            CGN Contributor - Lifetime
                            • Jan 2007
                            • 9259

                            Originally posted by Sgt Raven
                            ^^^^^^^^^^


                            The US Army and all levels of Maine Law Enforcement Agencies were given fair warnings about the shooter. The only question is, "was it Incompetence, Malfeasance, or Malice" that kept them from acting on the information?
                            You're missing one other thing that may have prevented them from acting on the information that they possessed. That is the statutes of the state of Maine.

                            Even if the authorities had perfect information that Mr. Card was going to commit a crime in the future, they're powerless to do anything in the absence of a statute that would have allowed them to seize Mr. Card's weapons, or to keep him under psychiatric care.

                            I'm not knowlegable regarding the laws of Maine so I will withhold an opinion as to whether the authorities acted properly or not. But I will invite anyone who believes that the Maine authorities were negligent to cite specific statute(s) they believe were violated.
                            If you build a man a fire, you'll keep him warm for the evening. If you set a man on fire, you'll keep him warm for the rest of his life.

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                            • SpudmanWP
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                              CGN Contributor
                              • Jul 2017
                              • 1156

                              I thought Maine had "Yellow Flag" laws that are basically "Red Flag" laws that have to be started by a LEO.

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                              • Sgt Raven
                                Veteran Member
                                • Dec 2005
                                • 3806

                                It sure looks like Maine's Yellow Flag Law could have been invoked. At least the players haven't gone in full CYA mode.


                                As details surrounding the mental health history of the Lewiston mass shooter Robert R. Card, Jr., continue to come to light, more scrutiny is being placed on Maine’s “yellow flag” law and how it may have been able to prevent last week’s horrific tragedy. A list of weapons restriction orders in Maine since the yellow
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                                DILLIGAF
                                "Never attribute to malice that which can be adequately explained by stupidity, but don't rule out malice"
                                "Once is Happenstance, Twice is Coincidence, Thrice is Enemy Action"
                                "The flak is always heaviest, when you're over the target"

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