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  • ar15barrels
    I need a LIFE!!
    • Jan 2006
    • 56893

    Originally posted by 1911su16b870
    Copper Jacket vid...

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    Talking head gonna talk because SEO.

    He's just talking about the housekeeping orders.
    Randall Rausch

    AR work: www.ar15barrels.com
    Bolt actions: www.700barrels.com
    Foreign Semi Autos: www.akbarrels.com
    Barrel, sight and trigger work on most pistols and shotguns.
    Most work performed while-you-wait.

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    • AlmostHeaven
      Veteran Member
      • Apr 2023
      • 3808

      Originally posted by ar15barrels
      The Roster prohibits that.
      You can buy them on the 2nd hand market via PPT.

      I have Spikes Tactical stripped AR pistol lowers for sale in the marketplace.
      Did the pistol lowers you are selling come from prior to the enactment of the California handgun roster?
      A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed.

      The Second Amendment makes us citizens, not subjects. All other enumerated rights are meaningless without gun rights.

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      • ar15barrels
        I need a LIFE!!
        • Jan 2006
        • 56893

        Originally posted by AlmostHeaven
        Did the pistol lowers you are selling come from prior to the enactment of the California handgun roster?
        No.
        They came from an out-of-state parent and transferred to me as semi-auto pistol receivers via the intrafamily transfer roster exemption.
        Last edited by ar15barrels; 08-29-2023, 4:11 PM.
        Randall Rausch

        AR work: www.ar15barrels.com
        Bolt actions: www.700barrels.com
        Foreign Semi Autos: www.akbarrels.com
        Barrel, sight and trigger work on most pistols and shotguns.
        Most work performed while-you-wait.

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        • AlmostHeaven
          Veteran Member
          • Apr 2023
          • 3808

          Originally posted by ar15barrels
          No.
          They came from an out-of-state parent and transferred to me as semi-auto pistol receivers via the intrafamily transfer roster exemption.
          To understand all of the labyrinthine California gun control laws requires an entire semester-long college course. Of course, the legislators intended this.
          A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed.

          The Second Amendment makes us citizens, not subjects. All other enumerated rights are meaningless without gun rights.

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          • ar15barrels
            I need a LIFE!!
            • Jan 2006
            • 56893

            Originally posted by AlmostHeaven
            To understand all of the labyrinthine California gun control laws requires an entire semester-long college course.
            Of course, the legislators intended this.
            20+ years of being a gun enthusiast both living and working under it also helps.
            Randall Rausch

            AR work: www.ar15barrels.com
            Bolt actions: www.700barrels.com
            Foreign Semi Autos: www.akbarrels.com
            Barrel, sight and trigger work on most pistols and shotguns.
            Most work performed while-you-wait.

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            • Dave07997S
              Senior Member
              • Nov 2009
              • 552

              So hopeful...

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              • flyer898
                Senior Member
                • Feb 2009
                • 2013

                For any member of the gun community who wants to stay out of trouble a thorough reading of C.D. Michel's book on California gun laws is essential.
                After I read my new copy, I bought copies for my sons and my son-in-law.
                When I was a deputy attorney general and an attorney on the inspector general's staff, I kept a reference copy, purchased at my expense, on my bookshelf.
                Last edited by flyer898; 08-29-2023, 5:52 PM.
                Never argue with a fool, onlookers may not be able to tell the difference. So said somebody but not Mark Twain
                "One argues to a judge, one does not argue with a judge." Me
                "Never argue unless you are getting paid." CDAA
                "I learned long ago, never to wrestle with a pig. You get dirty, and besides, the pig likes it." George Bernard Shaw

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                • Sgt Raven
                  Veteran Member
                  • Dec 2005
                  • 3768

                  Originally posted by Dvrjon
                  The AG would like you to consider this:
                  Although weasel-worded, the threat is real.

                  If it has a functioning fixed magazine that will feed cartridges by manual operating the action, is it a single shot?


                  ETA: Reno May has several in depth YouTube videos on AR pistols in California.
                  ETA2: As part of Boland v Bonta, Reno May is on the DOJ radar and they watch his videos.
                  They would love catching him doing something wrong. I take his info and do my own research from there.
                  Last edited by Sgt Raven; 08-29-2023, 7:40 PM.
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                  DILLIGAF
                  "Never attribute to malice that which can be adequately explained by stupidity, but don't rule out malice"
                  "Once is Happenstance, Twice is Coincidence, Thrice is Enemy Action"
                  "The flak is always heaviest, when you're over the target"

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                  • Sgt Raven
                    Veteran Member
                    • Dec 2005
                    • 3768

                    Originally posted by ar15barrels
                    The 9mm's are sold as single shots.
                    The 223/5.56 are manually operated fixed magazine repeaters.

                    OK, I didn't catch that part. I was originally posting about the 5.56 and should not have added the 9mm version.
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                    DILLIGAF
                    "Never attribute to malice that which can be adequately explained by stupidity, but don't rule out malice"
                    "Once is Happenstance, Twice is Coincidence, Thrice is Enemy Action"
                    "The flak is always heaviest, when you're over the target"

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                    • ar15barrels
                      I need a LIFE!!
                      • Jan 2006
                      • 56893

                      Originally posted by Sgt Raven
                      If it has a functioning fixed magazine that will feed cartridges by manual operating the action, is it a single shot?
                      No.

                      Single shot pistols can not hold more than 1 cartridge in the firearm and the only place a cartridge is supposed to fit is in the chamber.
                      If you could put 1 round in a magazine and one round in the chamber, then the gun is not a single shot because it's holding more than 1 round.
                      If it holds more than 1 round, it's a repeater.
                      The distinction between different repeaters is how they are cycled, be it automatically or manually.
                      The automatically cycling repeaters are known as semi-automatics.

                      A single shot can NOT have a magazine that holds ANY cartridges.
                      Randall Rausch

                      AR work: www.ar15barrels.com
                      Bolt actions: www.700barrels.com
                      Foreign Semi Autos: www.akbarrels.com
                      Barrel, sight and trigger work on most pistols and shotguns.
                      Most work performed while-you-wait.

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                      • ar15barrels
                        I need a LIFE!!
                        • Jan 2006
                        • 56893

                        Originally posted by Sgt Raven
                        I was originally posting about the 5.56 and should not have added the 9mm version.
                        But you did, so I was just correcting the error.
                        Randall Rausch

                        AR work: www.ar15barrels.com
                        Bolt actions: www.700barrels.com
                        Foreign Semi Autos: www.akbarrels.com
                        Barrel, sight and trigger work on most pistols and shotguns.
                        Most work performed while-you-wait.

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                        • Sgt Raven
                          Veteran Member
                          • Dec 2005
                          • 3768

                          Originally posted by ar15barrels
                          But you did, so I was just correcting the error.

                          I know you were and thank you for pointing out my error. I should have caught it myself. The fact their 5.56 comes with a 10 round mag & the 9mm does not, should have been a clue to me.


                          No one here should take offense at having an error of fact corrected. We're all trying to give correct information...
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                          DILLIGAF
                          "Never attribute to malice that which can be adequately explained by stupidity, but don't rule out malice"
                          "Once is Happenstance, Twice is Coincidence, Thrice is Enemy Action"
                          "The flak is always heaviest, when you're over the target"

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                          • ar15barrels
                            I need a LIFE!!
                            • Jan 2006
                            • 56893

                            Originally posted by Sgt Raven
                            No one here should take offense at having an error of fact corrected. We're all trying to give correct information...
                            Indeed.
                            Some people think I come across as an A-hole for being very particular about technical details being right but my intention is only to get the most correct information out there that I can.
                            Randall Rausch

                            AR work: www.ar15barrels.com
                            Bolt actions: www.700barrels.com
                            Foreign Semi Autos: www.akbarrels.com
                            Barrel, sight and trigger work on most pistols and shotguns.
                            Most work performed while-you-wait.

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                            • deckhandmike
                              Calguns Addict
                              • Jan 2011
                              • 8322

                              Feelings should be left out of this thread. It’s either right or wrong.

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                              • JiuJitsu
                                Member
                                • Dec 2020
                                • 345

                                My feelings are super hurt. And you’re all a bunch of A-holes.

                                Now, where are all the decisions from Benitez and where is the AW decision from Bianchi v. Frosh?

                                Tomorrow? Two weeks?
                                Last edited by JiuJitsu; 08-31-2023, 7:02 PM.

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