Miller v. Bonta 9th Ckt "assault weapons": Held for Duncan result 1-26-24

[NorCalAthlete]

IANAL but 134 Pretty much sums it all up to me.

Agreed

[The Tiger]

Ask 4 cops and a park ranger and I'll bet you get 6 different answers.

And each will give you the answer with such conviction.

[The Tiger]

IANAL but 134 Pretty much sums it all up to me.

That's it. Thanks for pointing it out

[Bolt_Action]

[IVC]

Isn’t the best possibility to appeal this to the 9th circuit and lose as quickly as possible, skip the endless en banc business and just get this to SCOTUS ASAP? Until we get a SCOTUS ruling all we have is at best a bunch of feel good do nothing rulings.

It's probably the fastest, but a win that survives en banc is almost as good - it would strike down the infringement in CA, then open the door for other restrictive states to follow suit. At least we would have the ban gone while we wait.

As for the "feel good do nothing rulings," we are about to find out what happens with magazines - we won at both district and circuit levels so it's either we get en banced and lose, which then goes to SCOTUS, or we lose magazine capacity limits in CA.

The only question is how long can the CA-9 keep the case in limbo, which is something we are finding out right now, as we wait for their next move. The AWB case is following in great footsteps, we just need a bit more patience.

[ar15barrels]

The only question is how long can the CA-9 keep the case in limbo, which is something we are finding out right now, as we wait for their next move.

The answer to that depends on how long it takes the communists to pack the supreme court with a bunch more communist sympathizers.

[Bolt_Action]

It's probably the fastest, but a win that survives en banc is almost as good - it would strike down the infringement in CA, then open the door for other restrictive states to follow suit. At least we would have the ban gone while we wait.

As for the "feel good do nothing rulings," we are about to find out what happens with magazines - we won at both district and circuit levels so it's either we get en banced and lose, which then goes to SCOTUS, or we lose magazine capacity limits in CA.

The only question is how long can the CA-9 keep the case in limbo, which is something we are finding out right now, as we wait for their next move. The AWB case is following in great footsteps, we just need a bit more patience.

[taperxz]

I'd be willing to wait 6 months if it means we draw a good motions panel in the appeals court; even 8 - 10 months but I think Becerra will complain at that point.

[riderr]

The answer to that depends on how long it takes the communists to pack the supreme court with a bunch more communist sympathizers.

Yes, that's pretty much my understanding as well. The cornerstone cases a kept on hold, till the favorable resolution is more or less guaranteed.

[Rafiki76]

This may be a stupid question, but if I purchase a stripped AR lower before a decision is announced, does that mean that at any point in the future it will be grandfathered in and allowed to be built with features and removable mag? Or would it have to be physically built before a stay is implemented? Thank you

[ar15barrels]

This may be a stupid question, but if I purchase a stripped AR lower before a decision is announced, does that mean that at any point in the future it will be grandfathered in and allowed to be built with features and removable mag?
Or would it have to be physically built before a stay is implemented?

Until a decision is released, there is no positive answer to that.
The smart money is on having a complete rifle on hand to be able to take immediate advantage of any such decision that is released.
Past experience tells us that the window will likely be short.

[Rafiki76]

Until a decision is released, there is no positive answer to that.
The smart money is on having a complete rifle on hand to be able to take immediate advantage of any such decision that is released.
Past experience tells us that the window will likely be short.

Thank you I understand the answer completely depends on the ruling. Do you think it would be considered enough to have a built lower? If the ruling allows it to have a standard mag catch and pistol grip.

[BBot12]

Thank you I understand the answer completely depends on the ruling. Do you think it would be considered enough to have a built lower? If the ruling allows it to have a standard mag catch and pistol grip.

[Rafiki76]

Thank you I appreciate the advice.

[ar15barrels]

Do you think it would be considered enough to have a built lower?

No.
A lower without an upper is neither centerfire or semi-automatic.