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  • chris
    I need a LIFE!!
    • Apr 2006
    • 19447

    Originally posted by dawgcasa
    Benitez won?t fall for this game. He clearly understands that the liberal anti-gun defendants want to find a way to back door Bruen and re-establish the old ?interest balancing? analysis advocated by Justice Breyer for all gun cases. But this also means that Benitez will need to explicitly address these attempts in his decision and lay out a thorough legal analysis that debunks interest balancing being injected under guise of a different name or fake ?precedent?. He knows his full decision will be surgically dissected by the liberals on the 9th Circuit for ANY crack that allows them to either claim his analysis didn?t follow their interpretation of Bruen, or that he showed ANY prejudice towards a (fabricated) ?historical precedent? that would support defendants claims of prior state interest balancing. Fortunately, Benitez has ample examples in the 9th Circuits thought process in all of their prior en banc reversals of gun rights cases, so he knows precisely what they will attempt to argue and can explicitly lay out why those arguments are now foreclosed by Bruen.
    Great points you have addressed. I'm looking forward to the breakdown for us non lawyer types to hear or read his decision. No doubt the media and Newsom will b*tch moan and cry about his ruling all over the news. That is something I'm looking forward to.
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    • TruOil
      Senior Member
      • Jul 2017
      • 1930

      Originally posted by chris
      Great points you have addressed. I'm looking forward to the breakdown for us non lawyer types to hear or read his decision. No doubt the media and Newsom will b*tch moan and cry about his ruling all over the news. That is something I'm looking forward to.
      His first opinion dissected the balancing test and rejected it as impermissible under the Heller decision, but still concluded that the law would fail even if balancing applied. So having rejected it once, he is even more likely to do so after Bruen.

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      • BAJ475
        Calguns Addict
        • Jul 2014
        • 5066

        Originally posted by TruOil
        His first opinion dissected the balancing test and rejected it as impermissible under the Heller decision, but still concluded that the law would fail even if balancing applied. So having rejected it once, he is even more likely to do so after Bruen.
        My guess is that he won't discuss balancing because there is no need to do so.

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        • Sgt Raven
          Veteran Member
          • Dec 2005
          • 3806

          Originally posted by BAJ475
          My guess is that he won't discuss balancing because there is no need to do so.

          He may point out that under Bruen, a balancing test is not allowed.
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          • 1911su16b870
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            CGN Contributor
            • Dec 2006
            • 7654

            Originally posted by Sgt Raven
            He may point out that under Bruen, a balancing test is not allowed.
            He wrote
            "Bruen, the Bruen opinion, I believe, discarded the intermediate scrutiny test that I also thought was not very useful; and has, instead, replaced it with a text history and tradition test." Judge Benitez 12-12-2022
            So no strict/intermediate scrutiny...text, history and tradition for Benitez...hopeful/wishing/praying everyone else in the 9th circuit does the same.
            "Bruen, the Bruen opinion, I believe, discarded the intermediate scrutiny test that I also thought was not very useful; and has, instead, replaced it with a text history and tradition test." Judge Benitez 12-12-2022

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            • DrewN
              Senior Member
              • Sep 2012
              • 1887

              Originally posted by Gowking
              Yeah that?s not a thing.
              ?? I was under 21 in A school and we drank at the bars all the time. Edit: Ah, never mind, the drinking age was 18 in Tn at the time. I'm just old.

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              • Sgt Raven
                Veteran Member
                • Dec 2005
                • 3806

                Originally posted by DrewN
                ?? I was under 21 in A school and we drank at the bars all the time. Edit: Ah, never mind, the drinking age was 18 in Tn at the time. I'm just old.



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                • EM2
                  Veteran Member
                  • Jan 2008
                  • 4991

                  Originally posted by DrewN
                  ?? I was under 21 in A school and we drank at the bars all the time. Edit: Ah, never mind, the drinking age was 18 in Tn at the time. I'm just old.
                  I was 18 back in 1985 when I was attending EM-A school in Great Lakes Illinois and was able to get beer at the enlisted club on base.
                  IIRC, the drinking age was either 19 or 21 for Illinois and Wisconsin, we would go to a bowling alley bar as they didn't give two ****s so long as you stayed
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                  It's the flu for crying out loud, just stop.

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                  • The Gleam
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                    • Feb 2011
                    • 11650

                    C'mon baby - you're next for some updates!

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                    Originally posted by Librarian
                    What compelling interest has any level of government in knowing what guns are owned by civilians? (Those owned by government should be inventoried and tracked, for exactly the same reasons computers and desks and chairs are tracked: responsible care of public property.)

                    If some level of government had that information, what would they do with it? How would having that info benefit public safety? How would it benefit law enforcement?

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                    • BlessedHunter
                      Junior Member
                      • Aug 2015
                      • 78

                      Originally posted by The Gleam
                      C'mon baby - you're next for some updates!

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                      Just thought how amazing it would be if in the next two days, this case, the AW case and Renna all were judged in our favor. Each case has a two week timeline before it?s enjoined??all at the same time.

                      CA would be up a creek trying to maneuver all of it and it would be glorious.

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                      • ar15barrels
                        I need a LIFE!!
                        • Jan 2006
                        • 56983

                        Originally posted by BlessedHunter
                        Just thought how amazing it would be if in the next two days, this case, the AW case and Renna all were judged in our favor.
                        Each case has a two week timeline before it?s enjoined??
                        Depends on the judge's specific orders.
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                        • mr goodguy
                          Senior Member
                          • Oct 2014
                          • 744

                          Silence is deafening

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                          • homelessdude
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                            CGN Contributor
                            • Aug 2013
                            • 2071

                            A lot of us are waiting on this one. fingers crossed

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                            • BigPimping
                              CGN Contributor
                              • Feb 2010
                              • 21392

                              Any new information on this?
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                              • CGZ
                                Senior Member
                                • Nov 2014
                                • 990

                                Still waiting for the ruling. No way to know when it'll come out. I would speculate it comes out this month as it's near two months since the final briefs were due, but could still be longer.

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