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  • #16
    Blu808
    Member
    • Apr 2013
    • 175

    It?s usually a general consensus in the NV community that HHV is a junk company.

    With that being said, my information comes from my customer who?s the head trainer at ?The Ranch? training facility and ex delta force.

    Usually for helmets it?s in the following order from best to lesser quality.

    Ops-Core
    Team Wendy
    3m

    The 3m is most affordable and many agencies swear by them.

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    • #17
      user120312
      Veteran Member
      • Mar 2012
      • 4141

      Originally posted by Blu808
      It?s usually a general consensus in the NV community that HHV is a junk company.

      With that being said, my information comes from my customer who?s the head trainer at ?The Ranch? training facility and ex delta force.
      I'll test that

      So far, smooth process, good communication, product shipped within 24 hours and package weighs about four pound more than advertised helmet weight. Compared to my local sanitation company, eye doctor and lawyer, whom I also tested during the same time period, excellent.

      Quality of helmet, unknown. Will report. That's what this forum is about. Since I worked as a machinist for nearly 50 years, my perspective is geared towards precision and quality of construction.

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      • #18
        Big Chudungus
        Senior Member
        • Jun 2021
        • 1931

        how come this one (poly)https://tachelmet.com/products/milit...ctical-helmets is 2x as much as this one
        (kevlar)
        The High Cut Ach Mich 2000 Level III Ballistic Helmet (ACH) is tested by an independent laboratory to NIJ III specs it will stop a .44 magnum. Made from DuPont Kevlar with a front aluminum shroud designed to fit most ballistic helmet accessories the ballistic helmet weight is 3 lb. 4 oz. before accessories or customizations. The polymer side rails fully adjustable padded dial suspension system and re-positionable closed-cell padding system work together to make this helmet both functional and comfortable. HELMET FEATURES NIJ Level III Ballistic Shell - independently tested by H.P. White Laboratories to NIJ-STD-0106.01. Unidirectional Aramid Kevlar core; 7.2mm +-0.2mm. High Cut helmet style for communications headsets and ear protection. ARC 4 position accessory rails. Fully adjustable padded dial suspension system (large helmets only) or 7-pad system (extra-large helmets only). Curved closed-cell foam pads. Aluminum 3-point shroud for mounting optics and accessories. External velcro loop on top sides and rear. Product SPECIFICATIONS Suspension: Large: Adjustable dial suspension. Extra-large: Adjustable dial suspension. ACCESSORY DETAILS ACH Side Rails:Fully compatible with a variety of accessories. Front Shroud: Universal 3-Pt. NVG Mount Velcro Attachments:Standard Velcro Loop Strips NIJ LEVEL TEST RESULTS All helmets are tested to NIJ standards. And because we take your protection seriously we do our own testing too. Every helmet from every batch is hand-inspected for quality and a random helmet is selected for field testing. If we wouldn't trust it we won't sell it. 10-YEAR WARRANTY We offer a 10-year manufacturer warranty on all products sold on our website. This means we guarantee that your product will remain free of manufacturer defects under normal use for 10 years.


        Both claim Level 4 but test paper is only 44 and 357. Doesn't say Made In USA so I guess that means China.

        I thought Kevlar was what you want, or is that just for soft vests?

        Doesn't poly get fried in heat, like car trunk?
        Last edited by Big Chudungus; 03-29-2024, 9:35 AM.

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        • #19
          RAMCLAP
          Veteran Member
          • Nov 2012
          • 2757

          Originally posted by Blu808
          RAMCLAMP:
          That helmet you purchased is the same you can get on AliExpress for $127 shipped.

          I actually bought one and shot it with all different rounds. It stopped 9mm, 40, 22lr. It didn?t stop 10mm or any larger rounds.

          I have videos if you want to see them getting shot.
          It appears to be the same helmet as Hard Headed Veterans too. They both put improved components in them. I got mine at a discount. I saw several videos of it stopping .44 mag. But, in the end they aren't really for stopping bullets. They are for stopping shrapnel. I see it as stopping BLM baseball bats.
          Psalm 103
          Mojave Lever Crew

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          • #20
            user120312
            Veteran Member
            • Mar 2012
            • 4141

            Yes, as someone who wore a hardhat routinely in work life and a full face SFI helmet at the race track, the helmet is a brain bucket with some mounting points on it that will serve a number of practical purposes, hopefully never to stop bullets or shrapnel but purchased with that in mind as well. I'll try to give the most accurate feedback possible on it and the body armor that will arrive next week.

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            • #21
              RAMCLAP
              Veteran Member
              • Nov 2012
              • 2757

              Originally posted by user120312
              Yes, as someone who wore a hardhat routinely in work life and a full face SFI helmet at the race track, the helmet is a brain bucket with some mounting points on it that will serve a number of practical purposes, hopefully never to stop bullets or shrapnel but purchased with that in mind as well. I'll try to give the most accurate feedback possible on it and the body armor that will arrive next week.
              Please do that.
              Psalm 103
              Mojave Lever Crew

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              • #22
                user120312
                Veteran Member
                • Mar 2012
                • 4141

                Here's a brief album of unboxing pictures...
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                <ETA, deleted sample picture due to large size; see album>

                From zero, everything looked well packaged, arrived on time and initial inspection showed no flaws or red flags to check further, but I will inspect more closely after removing interior padding, as the seller recommends.

                I've had the helmet on about an hour now just doing normal chores and am glad I spent the extra money for the lighter unit. I'll weigh it to confirm.

                I feel a bit of pressure from the suspension system (my head measurement is in the middle of the large size range) but it fits well and the straps were easy to adjust. I like the magnetic engagement on the primary strap; makes donning and doffing easier.

                Side streps are easy to adjust on the head. Time will tell about ventilation and humidity handling. I'll go on a few walks to gauge that. I'll test it first on my bald head as a control then with a head cover/skin cap. Right now it''s bare.

                My initial impression is solid quality and constriction. Will report back with further findings.
                Last edited by user120312; 04-03-2024, 11:03 AM.

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                • #23
                  DaveInOroValley
                  CGN/CGSSA Contributor
                  CGN Contributor
                  • Jan 2010
                  • 8964

                  Tagged. Never gave this much thought,but will now.
                  NRA Life Member

                  Vet since 1978

                  "Don't bother me with facts, Son. I've already made up my mind." -Foghorn Leghorn

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                  • #24
                    user120312
                    Veteran Member
                    • Mar 2012
                    • 4141

                    I'll do further testing but did note an oddity worth mentioning. I used a paid off AMEX vanity card to purchase the helmet and got two alerts when making the purchase, one that I had a large denomination purchase and the other that they'd cut my credit line which had been in place for 20 years or more to roughly half of what it was prior. Same exact moment.

                    Infer, or not. Could simply be coincidence. I don't think so. We're discussing CBDC in detail in another discussion forum and control over purchases is one topic of discussion. Is a ballistic helmet 'bad'? Will it be? How about body armor? Ammunition? Thermal imaging? Night vision?

                    Just putting that out there. IDK, maybe I have a bad social credit score. If so, I've earned it

                    ETA I added a picture of the helmet on the postal scale to the album. With no attachments, ready to wear the helmet weighs 2 pounds, 13 ounces.
                    Last edited by user120312; 04-03-2024, 11:33 AM.

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                    • #25
                      RAMCLAP
                      Veteran Member
                      • Nov 2012
                      • 2757

                      So, the Ballistic Armor Helmet states like HHV that they send the material to China for pressing the shells. Then they bring them back and finish them in house. The HHV has what seems to be a pretty nice liner. But for the additional money it was not worth it to me. I can see why people would like it though. Pics won't load. Sorry fellas.
                      Last edited by RAMCLAP; 04-15-2024, 12:46 PM.
                      Psalm 103
                      Mojave Lever Crew

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                      • #26
                        user120312
                        Veteran Member
                        • Mar 2012
                        • 4141

                        I'd be curious to see corroboration on the claim that the ATE Lite shell is made locally in Texas. That shell is the basis for the helmet I bought.

                        The HHV ATE? Lite helmet shell is available for those customers whom want to build out their helmet with specific components either from HHV or other companies. The helmet shell (1.6lbs Medium) is made up of UHMWPE and aramid fibers. Proudly made in Sweetwater, Texas.
                        Hard Head Veterans manufactures ballistic helmets and other protective head gear for those in harms way. Proudly veteran owned & operated out of Sweetwater, Texas.


                        That's the closest I can find on their site to how the basic shell for that model is made in USA. At over 750 bucks for the raw shell it certainly is expensive.

                        I was impressed by how clean the shell looked inside and out and on the edges. That model (ATE Lite complete) size (large) and color (green) is now backordered 8-10 weeks as of today.
                        Last edited by user120312; 04-15-2024, 9:29 AM.

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                        • #27
                          user120312
                          Veteran Member
                          • Mar 2012
                          • 4141

                          Walked about 2 miles today, up and down hills, very little off-road stuff. It was on the cool side, very little sun. Helmet ventilation performed well against bald head. Very comfortable. Didn't seem heavy. No sore neck muscles. Had it on for about 90-100 minutes.

                          I think I talked the neighbor lady into wearing her beach buggy helmet the next time. She says it bothers her neck and thought building up neck muscles was a good idea.

                          I now call it the buggy, bicycle and bullets helmet. Next step is adding an accessory or two to it. Still looking for a good night vision monocular. So far no complaints

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                          • #28
                            RAMCLAP
                            Veteran Member
                            • Nov 2012
                            • 2757

                            Originally posted by user120312
                            Walked about 2 miles today, up and down hills, very little off-road stuff. It was on the cool side, very little sun. Helmet ventilation performed well against bald head. Very comfortable. Didn't seem heavy. No sore neck muscles. Had it on for about 90-100 minutes.

                            I think I talked the neighbor lady into wearing her beach buggy helmet the next time. She says it bothers her neck and thought building up neck muscles was a good idea.

                            I now call it the buggy, bicycle and bullets helmet. Next step is adding an accessory or two to it. Still looking for a good night vision monocular. So far no complaints
                            Good to hear.
                            Psalm 103
                            Mojave Lever Crew

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                            • #29
                              sigstroker
                              I need a LIFE!!
                              • Jan 2009
                              • 19008

                              Originally posted by user120312
                              Walked about 2 miles today, up and down hills, very little off-road stuff. It was on the cool side, very little sun. Helmet ventilation performed well against bald head. Very comfortable. Didn't seem heavy. No sore neck muscles. Had it on for about 90-100 minutes.

                              I think I talked the neighbor lady into wearing her beach buggy helmet the next time. She says it bothers her neck and thought building up neck muscles was a good idea.

                              I now call it the buggy, bicycle and bullets helmet. Next step is adding an accessory or two to it. Still looking for a good night vision monocular. So far no complaints
                              Slap nods and counterweight on it and see if it still doesn't seem heavy.

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                              • #30
                                Blu808
                                Member
                                • Apr 2013
                                • 175

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