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  • bigboarstopper
    Senior Member
    • Jan 2009
    • 2160

    Representing hunting in a positive light.

    So I’ve been to the state capitol on numerous occasions to oppose numerous anti hunting legislation bills. What I’ve seen on numerous occasions by those looking to restrict our hunting rights is the use of hunters own media posts against us. Some of this comes off hunting forums, websites and the majority off of Facebook.

    Next time your online and want to comment or post something about hunting please take a moment and think about wether the content you are posting or commenting on can be used against us. Im not saying we as hunters need to hide. In fact just the opposite. Showing who we really are and what we do is the definition of conservation and should be known.

    Recently there has been a post on numerous Facebook hunting groups of some guy hitting a wild hog in the head with a rock and it’s gotten under my skin. The post seems to originate from Australia which is obviously out of anyone’s control but the sharing of such content and humorous comments are. This isn’t helping us. It simply provides ammunition to those looking to take away our hunting rights. Another example is people using tannerite to blow up pigs (I’m on a lot of pig hunting Facebook groups). The comments include how “awesome” it would be to do such a thing or how “funny” it is. It’s neither. It’s lame. And to advertise such behavior as anything other than unethical is detrimental to the image of hunting and future of hunting in California itself

    California hunters are at the mercy of its liberal government and lobbyists. California is a testing ground for anti hunting legislation. And as such we have no choice to but to represent ourselves as the most ethical and conservative hunters in the nation.
    Guided/Semi Guided Wild Boar Hunts In Central California, Shay Balesteri 831.594.1270
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    njineermike
    Calguns Addict
    • Dec 2010
    • 9784

    Look, if he used a rifle, they'd complain it wasn't "fair". He uses a rock, it's "cruel". There is no winning this with those people. I'm getting ready to flake a glass bottle for a leaf point spear. Once I use it, you can be sure the same jackwagons will complain about it. The entire point is removal of hunting. ALL hunting, no matter the method of take. Post a hunting pic, it's bad to show the poor innocent dead bambi. Dont post and they'll say hunting isn't popular because nobody posts pictures of kills anymore. As for me, I'll keep posting my gory kills because not posting them to appease the anti hunters wont matter anyway.
    Originally posted by Kestryll
    Dude went full CNN...
    Peace, love, and heavy weapons. Sometimes you have to be insistent." - David Lee Roth

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    • #3
      bigboarstopper
      Senior Member
      • Jan 2009
      • 2160

      Originally posted by njineermike
      Look, if he used a rifle, they'd complain it wasn't "fair". He uses a rock, it's "cruel". There is no winning this with those people. I'm getting ready to flake a glass bottle for a leaf point spear. Once I use it, you can be sure the same jackwagons will complain about it. The entire point is removal of hunting. ALL hunting, no matter the method of take. Post a hunting pic, it's bad to show the poor innocent dead bambi. Dont post and they'll say hunting isn't popular because nobody posts pictures of kills anymore. As for me, I'll keep posting my gory kills because not posting them to appease the anti hunters wont matter anyway.
      Guided/Semi Guided Wild Boar Hunts In Central California, Shay Balesteri 831.594.1270

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      • #4
        deckhandmike
        Calguns Addict
        • Jan 2011
        • 8325

        We had a rule on a different forum that basically required all posted photos or videos to be legal to our regs. For instance if we went diving and got limits of lobster you couldn’t just post a photo of 49 lobster on the deck because those photos were used against us out of context. Instead you’d get all seven divers to pose with the catch so it didn’t look like overfishing. It stopped the antis from pulling content off our site as much. No one wanted to see photos of smiling sportsmen. They wanted graphic pictures of piles of dead animals.
        Last edited by deckhandmike; 06-26-2019, 12:45 PM.

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        • #5
          njineermike
          Calguns Addict
          • Dec 2010
          • 9784

          Gutter aspects? According to them its ALL gutter. I won't concede one more inch on any of it to appease an enemy that won't be happy until I'm dead.
          Originally posted by Kestryll
          Dude went full CNN...
          Peace, love, and heavy weapons. Sometimes you have to be insistent." - David Lee Roth

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          • #6
            Tanner68
            Senior Member
            • Nov 2008
            • 2147

            BBS's is point is valid. And not too nuanced. No reason to contest what you are saying. Don't give them ammo. We are fighting to win after all.

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            • #7
              bigboarstopper
              Senior Member
              • Jan 2009
              • 2160

              Originally posted by njineermike
              Gutter aspects? According to them its ALL gutter. I won't concede one more inch on any of it to appease an enemy that won't be happy until I'm dead.
              Guided/Semi Guided Wild Boar Hunts In Central California, Shay Balesteri 831.594.1270

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              • #8
                BillyGoatCrawler
                Veteran Member
                • Oct 2006
                • 2583

                Totally agree, BBS. We are at greater odds here and need to approach this strategically. There is some low hanging fruit we can take away from antis.
                Kunar Prov, A'stan '08-'09, 1-26 INF

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                • #9
                  Boarhuntor
                  Banned
                  • Feb 2019
                  • 760

                  Originally posted by bigboarstopper
                  It simply provides ammunition to those looking to take away our hunting rights.
                  I understand your pain and point but Unfortunately they do not need any ammunition, they have enough and they make it out of the air.
                  Here is the most recent example: Trump is already blamed for the drowning of the man and his 2 years old daughter.
                  So, nothing is going to help, if they don't have pictures, they will invent stories. don't you worry.
                  Look at the recent political events, not that they make up the stories, they lie outright in front of the congress, in the books and media and even do not care that someone's life is going to be ruined, just to prove their point.
                  The war is already lost, the only question is how soon they will put a final point on it.
                  I'm guessing it will happen in 6 years when Gavin Newsom gets inaugurated. if not sooner.
                  Last edited by Boarhuntor; 06-26-2019, 1:53 PM.

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                  • #10
                    Dirtlaw
                    CGN/CGSSA Contributor - Lifetime
                    CGN Contributor - Lifetime
                    • Apr 2018
                    • 3480

                    Shay,


                    Thank you for your efforts in Sacramento. It saddens me that I haven't been more involved, but life is like a box of chocolates and the pieces I've been getting are like vacuum machines sucking up my time. I wish there were more like you.

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                    • #11
                      njineermike
                      Calguns Addict
                      • Dec 2010
                      • 9784

                      I grasp everything you're saying. You just dont have a willing ally here in being politically correct to make them happy.
                      Originally posted by Kestryll
                      Dude went full CNN...
                      Peace, love, and heavy weapons. Sometimes you have to be insistent." - David Lee Roth

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                      • #12
                        Boarhuntor
                        Banned
                        • Feb 2019
                        • 760

                        Originally posted by njineermike
                        I grasp everything you're saying. You just dont have a willing ally here in being politically correct to make them happy.
                        1. No, you dont.
                        2. They do not give a fling s..t about our ally not about our opinion not something else as well as common sense. They will just step over everyone who does not share their "vision".
                        Do you need examples or you remember lead ban, cougar hunting ban... Continue yourself.

                        In 6 years we will compare the notes. Hopefully i'll be in another slave free state.
                        Last edited by Boarhuntor; 06-26-2019, 2:23 PM.

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                        • #13
                          MrTokarev
                          Veteran Member
                          • Jul 2012
                          • 2746

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                          A Fistful of Dollars

                          Originally posted by BKinzey
                          The chuckleheaded tinfoil-asshatter racist (yes! that's a couple of names and a label!)

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                          • #14
                            MrTokarev
                            Veteran Member
                            • Jul 2012
                            • 2746

                            Added to what I said above:

                            The only way to avoid offending people like that would be to post no photos whatsoever.
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                            A Fistful of Dollars

                            Originally posted by BKinzey
                            The chuckleheaded tinfoil-asshatter racist (yes! that's a couple of names and a label!)

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                            • #15
                              bigboarstopper
                              Senior Member
                              • Jan 2009
                              • 2160

                              Originally posted by Boarhuntor
                              I understand your pain and point but Unfortunately they do not need any ammunition, they have enough and they make it out of the air.
                              Here is the most recent example: Trump is already blamed for the drowning of the man and his 2 years old daughter.
                              So, nothing is going to help, if they don't have pictures, they will invent stories. don't you worry.
                              Look at the recent political events, not that they make up the stories, they lie outright in front of the congress, in the books and media and even do not care that someone's life is going to be ruined, just to prove this point.
                              The war is already lost, the only question is how soon they will put a final point on it.
                              I'm guessing it will happen in 6 years when Gavin Newsom gets inaugurated. if not sooner.
                              Guided/Semi Guided Wild Boar Hunts In Central California, Shay Balesteri 831.594.1270

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