Unconfigured Ad Widget

Collapse

My tale of survival

Collapse
X
 
  • Time
  • Show
Clear All
new posts
  • Pred@tor
    Senior Member
    • Jan 2005
    • 768

    My tale of survival

    1-24-08 On Thursday

    I got stranded out in the Huasna national Forest area. The weather has been terrible this week and I was feeling adventurous. So I decided to drive out there and well I said my prayers on the way out crossign the creeks. I had left the house after my mother left for work around 11:30 The day started out all right and I was suprised to see snow 14 miles east of Arroyo Grande. I saw some wild pigs and deer on the way out. I took my M1 Carbine rifle with me which is an old semi-automatic WW2 rifle that our GI's used in combat during the war. There was not much ammo left in my can and it fill 3 15 round mags and 26 rounds of .30 Carbine in a preban 30 round magazine I have. (which is a POS btw) I went to the usual place where I go shooting. Arrived here at 12:30pm(there pic below)





    The only thing was that there was a blanket of snow and creeks running this year and time around. I was amazed it was like a scene from Band of Brothers in the battle of the Buldge. It was quiet out there in this somewhat remote area. Atleast I was without the mortars and Germans to worry about. Well I had my OD green trench coat on with wool liner that kept my upper body warm and my favorite green cowboy hat with chin strap on. I brought some empty plastic bottles with me too. So I filled them up in the cold creek which make my hands numb. Loading the mags with the loose ammo thats was in the ammo can brought circulation back into my hands. Slapped a 15 rounder into the mag well of my carbine. Slung it on my back and grabbed the crate of bottles full of water. Set my targets up at different ranges accordingly and charged back the blot and starting taking my shots at my targets. My rifle was shooting a little to the right I noticed so I adjusted my aim and hit atleast 60% of my targets and had some failures to feed. So when I was done with my fun with the gun and out of ammo I decided I wanted to go exploring. Got in the Blazer and had it in four high. I crossed a foot deep puddle and sucked up water. (I just did the sign of the cross and my truck started right up) Took myself to higher elevation and noticed that the area didnt look the same as it did in dry weather. The white blanket of snow covered most of the roads. So I drove out there further and got to a point where I wanted to go down. Since it was a challenge with the trees in the way and all I thought I could make it. (i know dumb and crazy) Of course I didn't have tire chains with me because I wasnt expecting snow and I was out there this time last year. It wasnt raining then though... Anyway so I started to down this slope and it turned into a slippery slope. I thought I could get out of the situation but I ended up going down hill in reverse. Where I ended up getting stuck is where an annoying tree was blockign me. I did my best to not hit the trees because I had done this before in my Toyota but not in the same area I was. (I hit trees with that beater though) Okay so I started to get pissed off at this tree and started to go forward and revese into it. Hoping I'd knock the damned thing down! Ended up digging myself in two feet deep or judge for yourselves how far I was in the ground to my rear axle. (see pix below) I got stuck at 1:30pm




    Mind you these pix are 24 hours after my truck was out there. It was all white the in the setting before! Now I chose to abandon my truck because I wanted to get the hell out of there. So I walked on foot for awhile and got lost. It was good I did not panic, let fear set in, and stayed focused . I thought for a bit chewing on a twig to keep me calm and sane because at this point I knew I needed help but with the way we men are well we dont always like to admit we need help. No my cell didnt have service not even ****in 911 worked out there on my cell. So my options were to stay put and possibly freeze to death. I heard a story where a guy froze to death in his car buried in snow but that was four feet of snow. (besides I would have kept an eye on the snow level if I had stayed I had an army shovel) I was dealing with maybe 7" of snow. My gun was out of ammo so it was useless. A gun without bullets is just a ****ty club so I left it in the truck. Besides I didnt wanna look threatening with it seeking for help. Having ammo would have helped for survival and distress signals though. Shooting three times is SOS, but I felt since it cold and wet I had to get out of there. Sure I could have built a shelter and a fire but it would have been a miserable stay and for who knew how long. I still had my Leatherman CORE which is a multitool so I could have made a sharp stick to poach for food if necessary. (yes there were animals out there I saw tracks) I didnt tell nobody where I went (big mistake) but my Dad noticed I took my gun atleast so he knew where I went because I did this before once back in July. (I figured and hoped he would know) Anyway back to where I got lost I walked for a couple hours and starting see a place I didnt recongnize fences and gates open I had never been through. Walked in puddles with a frozen layer on top sloshing through them getting my feet numb. I decided to track back a few times. The snow began to fall but lightly and it wieghed my down I didnt notice for awhile either. I even ate snow it was nice and fresh because I had a bottle of water I was savoring. Boy was I feeling heavy too I eventually took notice and brushed my self off a bit. I kept following my tracks but got lost again. At some points a fell down but got right back up. I fell once and stayed down for a bit and thought hey I could just give up and freeze but no I wanna live. My hands were numb because I had no gloves so I kept them warm by putting my hands against my stomach under my coat against the warm wool. MY face was also very numb my lips felt like novacain had been injected into them. I had to man up too when I got emoitional at some points but realized crying or panicing would have been my end so I got a grip. I was far off from the place I wanted to go orginally. I felt since I knew the area so well I would have a problem but again in the snow it looks different. At one point I found a sign I accidently knocked over it said no motor vehicles National Forest Service HAHA. I didnt see what it said when driving because it was covered in snow how ironic... I turned around again and was hoping I'd get back to my truck and I found my tire tracks. Dont worry I took breaks but I could do it long at all because the longer you stop the harder it is to get up. I had to keep my blood flowing or else I could have had gone into shock and got hypothermia. Of course my clothes were damp and soaking wet. IF you're clothes are wet in a in a cold environment do not remove them you will loose body heat. The wool liner in my heavy ternch coat kept me warm. Hey it works for cold weather in winter and I dont wear it for a fashion statement it ****in works good. The coat supposively served my uncle during the Veitnam war. People always gave my **** for it, sometimes complemented me, or found it frightening even when I wore it in the rain and cold at school when I was in high school.
    Last edited by Pred@tor; 02-04-2008, 9:02 AM.
    "The strongest reason for the people to retain the right to keep and bear arms is, as a last resort, to protect themselves against tyranny in government."
    Thomas Jefferson

    Californian born and orginally from the Central Coast (Arroyo Grande, CA) who is currently serving in the Air National Guard of Missouri.

  • #2
    Pred@tor
    Senior Member
    • Jan 2005
    • 768

    Okay so it was getting dark I knew people at work were probably getting upset but I couldn't reach ANYONE! Since I didn't find my truck but found the way I wanted to go in the first place I just kept walking. Of course by now I was limping and walking real slow. The snow was starting to melt and thank god it had stopped awhile. I prayed to god many times out there and he answerd my prayers. For strength, guidence, for someone to find me eventually (but not then later on. keep reading) and not kicking the bucket out there. So far so good but I have had my socks off for awhile because water seeped through my jeans into my water proof boots. I had put them on my neck to dry but no luck there then around my belt on my coat. I lost one but they never dried just collected snow. So I had bear feet in my boots for a long time. Toes numb and somewhat stiff but not quite frost bitten. I often bent my toes to check to see if I could still feel thing. Good thing I kept walking or I might even have any of my toes! The hours passed on by 5:00, 6:00, 7:00, 8:00 ect. At one point I even saw a small bob cat. Passing through the cold *** creeks two feet up to my knees. I attempted to take my boots off at one point because my heels felt like they were getting sand papered. When I did try bear foot the rock benth my feet were jagged. So I decided to stick with the sand paper pain because I found it less annoying to me. Boy do I have some meat showing on my heels. Of course my heavy coat was taking its toll on my lower back too. I finally made way and I was near some ranches around 10:00 but it was not till 11:00 I saw the first human soul all day. I heard a motor and I was hoping it was a vehicle. Then I saw their headlights so I wavied them down. It was these rednecks driving a Yamaha ATV drunk well the almost hit and missed me by half a foot. I waved them down and the backed up. I could barley talk straight to them but I offred cash to them. I would have gave them all I had on me. The driver said straight up "**** that!" so he told me to get into the back, but damn we introduced oursleves of course. They gave me a Miller beer which made my day because I needed one all day. I even told them so and powered it. So they asked me where I was from and lived. I told em Arroyo Grande off Fair Oaks Avenue and they said they'd help me out since I am family. (yes a true local) It hailed on us on the way back too that cold wind wasnt fun either. In addition I have had strep throat for two weeks but it was bad by then and it was a pain swallowing the beer but I did. We got to their house in the Huansa town site. The gentlemen both were great guys and gave me two more beers, a phone call, and food. I ate some taco shells with some sort of meat in them and they were both hilarious. Their names were Shane and Gorge. Hell Shane saw my feet and said let me see one of those. He punched both of them and I didnt even yelp. They both had decided to goof off because Shane's wife was not home that night and they took her vehicle by chance. Thank god they found me or else I would have been walking another few hours or so! (possibly into town) Well my Dad and brother came to pick me up! Of course I had my *** chewed out but what was I expecting.... I could have croaked as a young man but I didn't want to die its a good thing I am a persistant, tough, and experinced person. (in regards to hiking)

    When we got back home I changed my clothes and we were going to go back out that night. This was because the weather was going to probably gonna get worse. So brother called up our friend Mike and he brought along his girl friend Jamie (she is a friend of mine too) to be my designated driver just in case. We drove back out there met up with the drunken rednecks who had a key for the gate and of course I was still drunk myself. I rode shotgun with my brother in his jeep. There was some trouble crossing the creeks too my brother sucked up water, or his distributor cap got loose. (by no means is his jeep a POS) Mike followed but all the vehicles cross the creeks cautiously. One of the first deep creeks we encountered we al lgot out of our vehicles to investigate. Throwing rocks and what not to measure the splash to check the deepness. The rednecks gave me another beer to go I told them I wanted to sober up though but I took the beer anyway. Its just a redneck thing to do to accept a beer when offered one. We made our progress around 4:30am but I accidentally led them all the wrong way. The rednecks were kinda behind and lost a little. They found us and well they followed again drunk behind the wheel in their stock 94' Chevy. The would go up this rough trail at one point though so they turned around and went home. We had finally found my truck in its grim state. There was no hope at first but I really wanted to try and not just leave it. So we got the wood out aired down the tires. That way I'd have more traction but unfortunately it did not work. The truck was damned and doomed sitting there so we packed up the shovels and gear we brought. I disconnected the battery because of parasitic drain. (took off the negative aka "ground" terminal) Left it there sure we were all disappointed and we got home when the sun was coming up. He had lost his mirror sometime when getting bush wacked out there. Mike had parted away from us so we when we got home we hit the hay.
    zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz

    1-25-08 Friday
    Made my phone calls the next morning even to work. The secertary was very understanding but my supervisor was kind a jerk to me. I guess he thought I just flaked on him and just decided not to go into work without telling anyone. The secertary knew I am not like that she knew something was up. ANyway the supervisor said I left them hanging which kinda pissed me off. I almost told him **** you and I dont wanna work today. (best part about my job is I can work whever I want I am on call) So I told him thanks for being understanding and I am working tonight at Harloe. (Hell I could have been dead and he had no sub) Well at harloe elementary I did my job as best I could in my condition my knees were shot and the feet were sore. I was walking like a slow old crippled man. I didnt get out of there until 11:35 that night and I was telling everyone about my tale of disaster. Lucky to be alive and what not but I am still limpign around like an old man. People gave me some weird looks at times. Around 7:00pm at dinner I was told my uncle was willing to help me because he had a winch on the old 1987 Suburban he was trying to sell for 4500$ He drove all the way from from Orange County Yorba Linda. 300 miles for me and my Mom had told him about my situation he volunteered right away without her asking. Gotta love family we help eachother out when we need it most. So the plan was to leave at 5:30am in the morning. We hit the sacks...
    zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz
    Last edited by Pred@tor; 02-01-2008, 3:39 PM.
    "The strongest reason for the people to retain the right to keep and bear arms is, as a last resort, to protect themselves against tyranny in government."
    Thomas Jefferson

    Californian born and orginally from the Central Coast (Arroyo Grande, CA) who is currently serving in the Air National Guard of Missouri.

    Comment

    • #3
      Pred@tor
      Senior Member
      • Jan 2005
      • 768

      1-26-08 Saturday
      I wake up at 5:00am and got everyone else aware it was almost time. My brother and my uncle Don woke up and we got to bussiness. My brother jeep had trouble starting but with a little effort and frustration we got it fired right up. (starting fluid helped)



      Warning this man can be a jack *** tough guy at time be aware...



      Theres my Hero UNCLE DON!

      So we set out on our journey got the gas and went to the Goldman's house to recover a gate to use jsut in case it was locked. It wasnt and it hadnt rained for 24 hours we were lucky. We made it out there with no major problems although my uncle and I noticed something was wrong with the front end when we locked the hubs and put it into four wheel drive. It grinded like my old Toyota did when I made sharp turns in 4WD. Anyway we used 4 high when we thought we needed it. We made it through though and eventually made it to our destination around 7:00am I think.



      My uncles Burban and bro's jeep.
      "The strongest reason for the people to retain the right to keep and bear arms is, as a last resort, to protect themselves against tyranny in government."
      Thomas Jefferson

      Californian born and orginally from the Central Coast (Arroyo Grande, CA) who is currently serving in the Air National Guard of Missouri.

      Comment

      • #4
        Pred@tor
        Senior Member
        • Jan 2005
        • 768

        I started to dig...


        My uncle put his vehicle into position
        "The strongest reason for the people to retain the right to keep and bear arms is, as a last resort, to protect themselves against tyranny in government."
        Thomas Jefferson

        Californian born and orginally from the Central Coast (Arroyo Grande, CA) who is currently serving in the Air National Guard of Missouri.

        Comment

        • #5
          Pred@tor
          Senior Member
          • Jan 2005
          • 768

          That was from where my truck was about 75 ft away down the bloody slope.



          There I am with the hook we had to pull a stump out of the way first.


          Well I hopped in the truck once we were set and connected!



          Well I got out around 10:30am I think and was just happy to be out I wasn't checking time. I goofed around out there showing off to my uncle and brother. I did it because I know my truck and the area. I had fun mudding to the new Hankook mud terrains my friend Tim sold me work great for that I did a a lot of dough nuts. Then the usual stuff I do in better conditions on the way out. I stopped by my friend Chris' house told him my tale played a little dead men kane and Lynch demo which sucks BTW. My mother and my friend Jeff both called so I said bye to Chris and went home to air up my tires. My friend Jeff came up this way to do some bone yard hopping out on the mesa. It was his birthday today and he needed parts for his 69' Dodge Power Wagon. (BTW I need a new antenna again but found one and need more parts going back next week sometime) New heads, intake, ect. I dunno what he bought today but I had to power wash my muddy *** truck. I bought Jeff a six pack of Sam Adams at Gill's Gas station and he let me keep two beers. I drove to the gun dealer to show him the pistol I bought. Its an Italian made 92F with crimson tracer grips in 9mm Parabellum. I cannot wait to pick it up Feburay 2nd but yeah the 10 day wait is @#$ supposively its so I don't kill people but **** I already own guns. HAHA Anyway thats the law the gun is tits with the lazer. So I saw Rambo for free at 5:30pm at the theater and that was a bad *** movie. I saw the movie with a few friends of mine. Jeff, Curt, Chris, and Curt's date I forget her name right now After the movie Chris and I decided to visit Michelle at over at Supercuts where she worked. Chris wanted to wear my trench coat so I let him. It was funny though he was already wearing a sweater and looked like a bum with it on. He just needed hard liquor in his hand and a ****in cowboy killer in his mouth to look like a POS *** hole job less slob. Yeah a bum...HAHA he found my ski mask in there because I brought it with my just incase I would have been stranded again but I didnt wear it when I rescued my truck just left it in my pocket. So he gets the idea to freak the the ladies out at Supercuts. HAHA he did it and it was ballsy funny as hell. So I gimped in shortly afterwards and they all took notice I limp like a cripple they thought I was full of it so I gave em the jist of my tale. Anyway I am alive I have my truck and I am okay. So Cool

          I had to at least have had walked 20+ miles


          Anyway I am beat drunk and tired so I took forever here and I am gonna finish editing tommorrow.

          1-27-08 Friday
          Still sore but I am gonna go see my doc sometime this week. I want to thank My father, brother, uncle Don, Jamie, and Mike. Pretty much all my family and friends who helped. Atleast god had been on my side... Oh yeah almost forgot the good ol Boys Shane and George. HAH!
          Last edited by Pred@tor; 02-01-2008, 3:38 PM. Reason: People's names
          "The strongest reason for the people to retain the right to keep and bear arms is, as a last resort, to protect themselves against tyranny in government."
          Thomas Jefferson

          Californian born and orginally from the Central Coast (Arroyo Grande, CA) who is currently serving in the Air National Guard of Missouri.

          Comment

          • #6
            69Mach1
            Super Moderator
            CGN Contributor - Lifetime
            • Jan 2006
            • 15032

            OMG! Glad you made it out of there.
            sigpic
            69Mach1
            munkeeboi
            TURBOELKY
            antix2
            WTSGDYBBR
            tujungatoes
            jmpgnr24K

            Comment

            • #7
              sloguy
              Senior Member
              • Aug 2007
              • 1999

              lessons learned?

              invite friends when you offroad. 2 trucks is always better than one.

              always have a 72hour kit in the truck.

              im up in cambria. i like offroading too. lemme know when your going out like that and if i have money for gas i could come with. i have my own truck.
              ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

              Originally posted by xrMike
              She's going to get sand in her action, if she's not careful.

              Comment

              • #8
                blindluck
                Member
                • Apr 2006
                • 179

                thanks for the story and glad that you're ok.

                hmmmm, you got lost and then stuck because you got pissed off that a tree was in your way? you had no tools, supplies, or know-how to get yourself out of a very minor situation. then, you basically bumbled yourself out of a situation that was only dangerous because of your lack or preparedness. this was not so much a tale of survival as a tale of ignorance.

                please do offroaders, outdoorsmen and shooters a favor and stay on the pavement until you learn how to become responsible for yourself.

                Comment

                • #9
                  CSACANNONEER
                  CGN/CGSSA Contributor - Lifetime
                  CGN Contributor - Lifetime
                  • Dec 2006
                  • 44092

                  I'm glad to hear you're OK. Never do that again! You did EVERYTHING wrong!

                  BTW, Saturday night, I had to do a vehicle recovery. Some dumb kid thought his 2WD truck could handle the 2ft of mud he drove into. This was in Newbury Park and he didn't get more than 15' off pavement. Well, he was lucky that I came along with a towstrap and truck to pull him out.
                  NRA Certified Pistol, Rifle, Shotgun and Metallic Cartridge Reloading Instructor
                  California DOJ Certified Fingerprint Roller
                  Ventura County approved CCW Instructor
                  Utah CCW Instructor


                  Offering low cost multi state CCW, private basic shooting and reloading classes for calgunners.

                  sigpic
                  CCW SAFE MEMBERSHIPS HERE

                  KM6WLV

                  Comment

                  • #10
                    lawnrevenge
                    Senior Member
                    • May 2007
                    • 969

                    Glad your ok...
                    I hope you learned something.
                    But the first thing I thought while reading this is that a little preparation would have made the situation a lot better.

                    Rules to live by:
                    1. make sure people know where you're going and for how long
                    2. bring gear appropriate to the situation
                    3. know when to stop (your skill or vehicle will be the limiting factors)
                    Originally posted by AJAX22
                    Being law abiding doesn't mean you have to get down on all fours and bleat like an ewe.

                    Comment

                    • #11
                      sloguy
                      Senior Member
                      • Aug 2007
                      • 1999

                      Originally posted by blindluck2
                      thanks for the story and glad that you're ok.

                      hmmmm, you got lost and then stuck because you got pissed off that a tree was in your way? you had no tools, supplies, or know-how to get yourself out of a very minor situation. then, you basically bumbled yourself out of a situation that was only dangerous because of your lack or preparedness. this was not so much a tale of survival as a tale of ignorance.

                      please do offroaders, outdoorsmen and shooters a favor and stay on the pavement until you learn how to become responsible for yourself.
                      so why dont you try to help educate him? recommend a book or two. ect.

                      ill start.

                      'to hell on wheels, the illustrated manual of desert survival" by alan h. siebert a cool little book with good info.

                      'desert survival handbook' by charles a lehman another cool little book but not offroading just about desert stuff. either of the two books apply to other terrain since deserts can be cold too.

                      'the art of survival' by cord christian troebst this book is frightening to say the least. a collection of the stupedist decisions and worst survival screwups. a literary equivilent of "red asphalt" the people in this book eff up big, then bigger, then even worse, and most of them die. all true stories. this book will open your eyes and mind to things you would never think about. itll hammer into you the mistakes of others and will leave you with vivid reminders why not to do certain things.

                      i have another book laying around that i cant find at the moment simply called "offroading" published i think in the late 70's or early 80's. great book.

                      anyway, predator, if you want help creating a truck kit lemme know and i can show you whats in the bag that "lives" in my truck.
                      ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

                      Originally posted by xrMike
                      She's going to get sand in her action, if she's not careful.

                      Comment

                      • #12
                        Two Shots
                        Senior Member
                        • Mar 2007
                        • 2022

                        Glad you made it out Ok. You have learned a important lesson on what not to do. I've been there also except stuck in the desert by myself, no help for miles. I know the feeling of Oh Sh-- and the thoughts of will I get out or will they find my bleached bones in a year. I was lucky, Had plenty of food and water for atleast 4 days and other equipment to get out. After hours of digging I swore I would never go it alone again.
                        Last edited by Two Shots; 01-28-2008, 10:49 PM.
                        "I have a love interest in every one of my films - a gun."
                        - Arnold Schwarzenegger

                        Comment

                        • #13
                          Pred@tor
                          Senior Member
                          • Jan 2005
                          • 768

                          I had tools and stuff I just didn't bring them with me BIG MISTAKE and going alone was a BIG MISTAKE. Oh well its fun to brag lol.... It was just a rough situation thats all. I just did not want to stay out there forever...
                          "The strongest reason for the people to retain the right to keep and bear arms is, as a last resort, to protect themselves against tyranny in government."
                          Thomas Jefferson

                          Californian born and orginally from the Central Coast (Arroyo Grande, CA) who is currently serving in the Air National Guard of Missouri.

                          Comment

                          • #14
                            Pred@tor
                            Senior Member
                            • Jan 2005
                            • 768

                            I had to deal with what I had. As the old wise saying goes better to have it and not need it than to need it and not have it. Sure I though about the what ifs.. If I had a winch, a saw, ect. I would have been out of there in no time but I made it and I am okay thats all that matters!
                            "The strongest reason for the people to retain the right to keep and bear arms is, as a last resort, to protect themselves against tyranny in government."
                            Thomas Jefferson

                            Californian born and orginally from the Central Coast (Arroyo Grande, CA) who is currently serving in the Air National Guard of Missouri.

                            Comment

                            • #15
                              M. Sage
                              Moderator Emeritus
                              CGN Contributor - Lifetime
                              • Jul 2006
                              • 19759

                              Originally posted by lawnrevenge
                              Glad your ok...
                              I hope you learned something.
                              But the first thing I thought while reading this is that a little preparation would have made the situation a lot better.

                              Rules to live by:
                              1. make sure people know where you're going and for how long
                              2. bring gear appropriate to the situation
                              3. know when to stop (your skill or vehicle will be the limiting factors)
                              A couple more:

                              Don't leave the vehicle. It turned out alright this time, but you'd have been much better off hanging out in the truck for a more opportune time (or until someone found you.) Going out in the snow and wet looking for help is just going to get you lost (you noticed that, I think), and possibly killed. You talked about erecting a shelter, but... the truck is a ready-made shelter! They trap body heat pretty nicely. Just remember to loosen your boots.

                              Keep out of puddles. If you do walk, go around the wet stuff. Those puddles didn't help you out any.

                              Wet clothing should actually be shed. You'll freeze faster in wet clothes than you will naked. Water is the most effective heat transfer medium known.

                              I've heard survival priorities summed up in this "rule of threes."

                              3 minutes without air.
                              3 hours without shelter (depending on conditions, of course)
                              3 days without water
                              3 weeks without food.

                              Look toward the most immediate needs (shortest time span on that list) first.

                              Glad you got out of there Ok, but be more careful next time, huh?
                              Originally posted by Deadbolt
                              "We're here to take your land for your safety"

                              "My Safety?" *click* "There, that was my safety"
                              sigpicNRA Member

                              Comment

                              Working...
                              UA-8071174-1