Permit to work on AR's

[a-chris-47]

I am a licensed FFL 01 gunsmith and my question is do I need a permit from the DOJ to assemble or do repairs on AR type rifles. If customer brings in parts can I assemble?

Thanks
Chris

[Lifeon2whls]

I'm curious, do you need a permit to work on any guns? Assuming the customer walks in with the lower and its already been DROS'd, then that's the firearm...its not like you are building a firearm by putting the parts together.

[the86d]

Lower receiver possession=firearm owner, right?

Receivers are usually one piece, AFAIK. All else is user serviceable, or helped with...

[wash]

Souldn't you have worried about this before getting an FFL?

To answer your question, unless you are building "assault weapons" or working on registered "assault weapons" (or NFA items), you don't need a Ca dangerous weapon permit.

What you might want is an AR pistol lower to eliminate constructive possession problems while working on AR barrels that are shorter than 16".

[2shotjoe]

Make sure you have insurance that covers your mistakes.

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[novass]

I think your good as long as you don't build them for sales.

[Calif Mini]

I believe your FFL and log book kept up to date allows repairs or assembly of firearms without the owner present at all times.

Without FFL, the owner of record must be on site. Like anodizers of lowers that are not FFLs.

Fully automatic weapons may be a different story. Requires an upgrade in FFL and possibly DOJ notification. Not sure but check before taking in full auto stuff.

[Gunsmith Dan]

OK let me list this so it make some sense:

1) Gunsmith with 01 FFL with a CA CLFD can work on complete firearms, work on receiver/frames, buy/sell/trade/transfer complete firearms and receivers but can not buy or sell frames. Gunsmith can be given ALL the parts for a entire firearm to assemble it for the customer. Gunsmith with 01 FFL can not take part of a firearm and buy the rest of the parts to complete it for the customer ( example: customer brings the lower and has the gunsmith buy the upper)

2) Gunsmith with 01 FFL and a CA CLEFFL can do and not do all the same things as #1 above except they can not buy/sell/trade or transfer firearms.

3) Gunsmith with 07 FFL and CA CLFD can do all the same things as #1 but now they can take incomplete parts of a firearm and buy additional parts to make a complete firearm ( example: now they can buy the upper to assemble with the lower).

4) Gunsmith with 07 FFL and CA CLEFFL can do and not do all the same things as listed in #2 but now they can take incomplete parts of a firearm and buy additional parts to make a complete firearm (with the exception of the receiver as they cannot buy/sell/trade or transfer firearms).

5) Gunsmith repairing large capacity magazines needs to have any of the above sets of permits ( #1, 2, 3 or 4) plus a Large Capacity Magazine Permit or a Assault Weapons Permit.

6) Gunsmith repairing CA registered assault weapons, assault weapons owned by LEO/Military, assault weapons that shoot blanks for entertainment industry, full auto firearms from LEO/Military or entertainment industry needs to have any one of the sets of permits listed above (1, 2, 3 or 4) and a Assault Weapons Permit. Gunsmith CAN NOT receive civilian owned Assualt weapons or civilian owned full auto weapons from other states into CA for repairs.

working on any other part of a firearm with the exception of the receiver, frame or high capacity capable magazine requires no permits in regards to firearms but still would need business and seller's permits.

This of course does not cover any of the local permits you might need as it is different county by county.

Hope this helps