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  • #16
    Sunwolf
    Calguns Addict
    • May 2008
    • 7445

    Don`t see any case head separations when people fire .270 in 30-06 rifles or 7x57 in 7mm mag just malformed cases.

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    • #17
      CSACANNONEER
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      • Dec 2006
      • 44093

      Originally posted by Sunwolf
      Don`t see any case head separations when people fire .270 in 30-06 rifles or 7x57 in 7mm mag just malformed cases.
      They are fired when fully chambered and very close in dimentions to start with. Note: the post I responded to was guessing that this round was fired before it was fully chambered.
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      • #18
        Full Clip
        I need a LIFE!!
        • Dec 2006
        • 10263

        Originally posted by 5hundo
        I'm guessing someone got their "AK" ammo can mixed up with their "AR" ammo can...
        Or perhaps someone accidentally loaded a 7.62x39 AR with .223 ammo?
        I've seen that happen.

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        • #19
          5hundo
          Banned
          • Jun 2008
          • 2210

          Originally posted by Full Clip
          Or perhaps someone accidentally loaded a 7.62x39 AR with .223 ammo?
          I've seen that happen.
          Another likely scenario...

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          • #20
            bohoki
            I need a LIFE!!
            • Jan 2006
            • 20816

            i was thinking it might be someone shooting 762x39 in one of the cz 7.62x45 with or without the chamber adapter

            in fact check around maybe youll find a case with the chamber adapter attached to one of the cases (locktite my as)

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            • #21
              CSACANNONEER
              CGN/CGSSA Contributor - Lifetime
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              • Dec 2006
              • 44093

              Originally posted by bohoki
              i was thinking it might be someone shooting 762x39 in one of the cz 7.62x45 with or without the chamber adapter

              in fact check around maybe youll find a case with the chamber adapter attached to one of the cases (locktite my as)

              I bet you're right!
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              • #22
                ZakAttackMan
                Senior Member
                • Mar 2009
                • 519

                HERE IS THE CORRECT ANSWER

                Originally posted by fusionstar
                haha.. maybe the guy was a calgunner, I would love an update? I brought my unpainted MMG ak and mosin Nagant if you remember me at cordova shooting range about a month ago(not several days ago like first post.).

                he brought a saiga and wetherby rifle in 30-06, sitting on a coldwell leadslead.
                It was me and here is the answer to your question. Per my service manual

                On request of the Russian law enforcement bodies the chamber design of the carbines, cal. 7.62x39 provides for special distinctive element, which during firing procedures circular stamping on the fired case mouth, not affecting the carbine reliability, trouble free performance, service life and ballistic parameters and not being a sign of faulty. The cartidges extracted from the chamber at the carbine reloading and unloading, are suitable for repeat usage.

                I have reloaded hundreds of brass shot from this gun with no trouble

                Check the saiga forums for more information.

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                • #23
                  mattman
                  Member
                  • Jun 2008
                  • 484

                  Originally posted by 5hundo
                  I'm guessing someone got their "AK" ammo can mixed up with their "AR" ammo can...
                  Whats the difference "bullets are bullets" they said.

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                  • #24
                    fusionstar
                    Senior Member
                    • Apr 2007
                    • 2332

                    Originally posted by ZakAttackMan
                    It was me and here is the answer to your question. Per my service manual

                    On request of the Russian law enforcement bodies the chamber design of the carbines, cal. 7.62x39 provides for special distinctive element, which during firing procedures circular stamping on the fired case mouth, not affecting the carbine reliability, trouble free performance, service life and ballistic parameters and not being a sign of faulty. The cartidges extracted from the chamber at the carbine reloading and unloading, are suitable for repeat usage.

                    I have reloaded hundreds of brass shot from this gun with no trouble

                    Check the saiga forums for more information.

                    wow sounds good. I never knew that. Thanks for the info. Doesn't constant large resizing of the brass make it more brittle and require annealing?

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                    • #25
                      Sunwolf
                      Calguns Addict
                      • May 2008
                      • 7445

                      Saw a 30-30 stuck in a chamber of an ar-180 once,(unfired) when the dufus asked my help I said :"sorry that`s a gunsmith problem."

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                      • #26
                        knucklehead0202
                        Veteran Member
                        • Aug 2008
                        • 4087

                        those are speed ridges, make the bullet go faster. nah, some of those saigas look they were made with hatchets and friggin' chisels. probably just a crappy job on it. hopefully it works okay, but i'd stay a few down from that guy just in case.

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                        • #27
                          jacques
                          Senior Member
                          • Jan 2008
                          • 2478

                          I have been sorting and inspecting brass for the last week (probably 4k pieces now) and have seen some pretty bad rounds.


                          It makes you wonder if people know they are shooting rifles with major headspace issues.

                          Some of the military casings I have gone through show signs of what looks like a pretty heavy charge also.

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                          • #28
                            ZakAttackMan
                            Senior Member
                            • Mar 2009
                            • 519

                            Originally posted by knucklehead0202
                            those are speed ridges, make the bullet go faster. nah, some of those saigas look they were made with hatchets and friggin' chisels. probably just a crappy job on it. hopefully it works okay, but i'd stay a few down from that guy just in case.
                            4,000 rounds and counting never a problem I know several saiga owners personally and it has never been an issue.

                            Check www.saiga12.com for some usefull information.

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                            • #29
                              Sheldon
                              Senior Member
                              • Oct 2005
                              • 2147

                              I will post a pic of a 7.62X39 case that looks like it was fire formed in a .308 Winchester chamber.......completely blown open to look like a pistol case. I also found a 9mm case that was obviously fired in a .40 S&W chamber. Wonder if it was the same guy as it was found in the same area I was scrounging brass from?

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                              • #30
                                ZakAttackMan
                                Senior Member
                                • Mar 2009
                                • 519

                                Originally posted by Sheldon
                                I will post a pic of a 7.62X39 case that looks like it was fire formed in a .308 Winchester chamber.......completely blown open to look like a pistol case. I also found a 9mm case that was obviously fired in a .40 S&W chamber. Wonder if it was the same guy as it was found in the same area I was scrounging brass from?
                                Yes It was me I'm responsible for every weird case that was found on the range that day.

                                I just shoot whatever Wally World has in stock out of my saiga>

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