Range Report

[RiskyBusiness]

(i.e. only count the shots where you broke the trigger cleanly when the scope was on target, you weren't moving, flinching, etc.)



Just my take.

This sounds like really great advice! I thought using a sled would take away all my mistakes well pretty close to all but i guess how smooth the trigger is pulled, whether i flinch affects my cheek on the buttstock that can push the my sight on the target. I also place my left hand over the handguard so that it doesnt jump too much. I think i did notice a few times when i broke the trigger clean and my shot followed through. I really do need more trigger time but i appreciate the advice im getting here.

[divingin]

I would say that none of those are 1" groups. The B-8 target measures 21" x 24", the printed bull is 5.54". So the smallest shoot'n'see is, what, 2"?

If I were the OP, I would ignore COL for now, as you need to fit the cartridge in the mag; concentrate on technique (steady the rifle as much as possible, and make sure you *squeeze* the trigger, noting where the crosshairs were when the shot broke), then look for a charge that groups well for the shots that you feel were good (i.e. only count the shots where you broke the trigger cleanly when the scope was on target, you weren't moving, flinching, etc.)

Once you figure out a charge/bullet combo that works, then play with seating depth (though you're still going to be limited by the need for mag length ammo, unless you single load.)

Just my take.

[JackEllis]

With or without a red dot, the top and bottom left and the middle right would meet my requirement of 1" or less at 100 if I'm estimating the size of those targets correctly.

If those three are different charge weights at the same seating depth, then I would move the seating depth up and down a bit.

[RiskyBusiness]

From a 16" AR with a 4x scope, the top and bottom left and the middle right look great. You're shooting a 4x scope which makes precision harder and the target isn't great for scoped rifles. There are good scope targets. They have alignment lines on the.

Point is those are really good groups and probably more accurate than showing. Get a chronograph. It's super useful. I just got one from amazon for $90.

Part of the spread can be differences in powder charge and velocity. I'd bet if you get exact powder measures (throw under then trickle to weight) you'd see them tighten. And, once you find the right load, a chrono will help with ballistics and scope hold and such. Or mil clicks on the scope.

Oh wow I didn't think of targets with horizontal alignments. Not to mention my $80 PSA budget barrel. Thanks for the encouragement I'll be going back out and tweak a few things. Not sure about a trickler as I'm using my turret press as a single stage and weighing every charge before seating a bullet so charges should be on point. I could throw on a 3x9 scope to see if that shows improvements. Anyone else test loads wth red dots or 4x sights and have better groups?

[rm1911]

From a 16" AR with a 4x scope, the top and bottom left and the middle right look great. You're shooting a 4x scope which makes precision harder and the target isn't great for scoped rifles. There are good scope targets. They have alignment lines on the.

Point is those are really good groups and probably more accurate than showing. Get a chronograph. It's super useful. I just got one from amazon for $90.

Part of the spread can be differences in powder charge and velocity. I'd bet if you get exact powder measures (throw under then trickle to weight) you'd see them tighten. And, once you find the right load, a chrono will help with ballistics and scope hold and such. Or mil clicks on the scope.

[RiskyBusiness]

What twist barrel are you using?

1:7, i do have a 1:8 as a back up. Guys at the reloading shop told me 1:7 is more for heavier projectiles and not 55gr.

[RiskyBusiness]

For Varget & 55 grain projectiles, I suggest you try the 25.8-26.8 range.

Yeah i definitely saw good results with 25.9, i'll be careful to increase it by increments of 0.3, i realize it will be a compressed load so i doubt i'll reach the max before it starts to spill over the top of the mouth.

[6mmintl]

What twist barrel are you using?

[kcheung2]

For Varget & 55 grain projectiles, I suggest you try the 25.8-26.8 range.

[stilly]

Mr Risky knows I have no malice for him.
He is also not an easy guy to crush.


Also, if you are EVER short on targets- I know this place, http://www.targets.net/index.html has targets and when you buy a lot they can get pretty ridiculously cheap.

[RiskyBusiness]

DANG STILLY! Way to crush this man's thread! I hope the OP has a good sense of humor.

Im use to him already lol he's actually very insightful half the time, good people though.

[RiskyBusiness]

What shotgun you reloading for again??

haha very nice Stilly
i could've repeated a 3 shot group and gather only the best ones but i opted for 10 shot groups because hey i wanted the trigger time lol

[Sir Toast]

What shotgun you reloading for again??

DANG STILLY! Way to crush this man's thread! I hope the OP has a good sense of humor.

[stilly]

What shotgun you reloading for again??





I typically know my limits. I warmed up the other day with .45 ACP and had my target farther out than everyone else AND shot better groups then everyone else. For the Deagle I had to bring it in a bit because I am still not used to those sights.

FIRST think about reloading, Do you like the feel? Are they safe? Do they feed reliably?

Second thing- Accuracy. Where do they hit based on where you aim?

You can not REALLY judge accuracy TOOOOO much without using a sled. SO if I know my red dot is on target and I can hit the red dot several times with my load, it is a good load to me. I tell you what though- it is REALLY nice to be able to hit a golf ball 154 yards out in 2 shots though. AND that is hanging off the spare tire of a Jeep.

[slayer61]

Li' help.



To me, the development is the fun part. Notes on details, lengths etc. Try it all!