Polymer = Plastic High Price For Plastic Guns

[tbc]

Where is Highlander51 with his picture of old Glock19 with 100K rounds?


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[Chapped Hide]

Where is Highlander51 with his picture of old Glock19 with 100K rounds?


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That thread was and is still a great read. He was banned in that thread.

[SemperKilo]

I think it is amazing that we all now use the term "Polymer" when describing non-metallic frames on guns.

Lets face it folks...it's plastic !!

I truly cant believe we have been duped into thinking this material will last as long or longer than metal.

More importantly, the incredibly high prices we pay for these type weapons !!!

Much cheaper for Glock, Springfield and others to use these injected molded parts rather than machining quality metal and fitting by craftsmen.

What you do you think ???

Last longer how?

The oxidation rate of metals is obviously much quicker than plastic, so I think it is incorrect to say that we have been duped into thinking plastic will last longer than metal. It simply will.

Aluminum framed guns may challenge the life span of a plastic, but all (most) guns still have steel uppers and are equally susceptible to oxidation there.

I guess the price is subjective, but I wouldn't call a ~$200 hi-point (plastic gun) an incredibly high price. I think that is cheap for a gun.

Higher priced plastic guns like the Glock are still cheap compared to steel guns.

It is cheaper for Glock and SA to make plastic guns, that's why the XD is in the $550 range, and a 1911 that is made of quality metal and fitted by a craftsman is $2000. So I agree with you there.

You can also take a Glock and have quality parts and fitment done to it and have a $2000 Glock.

The $2000 Glock will last longer than the $2000 1911. The $500 Glock will also last longer than the $2000 1911.

My favorite gun to shoot is my 1911. It is smooth, the trigger is grate, it is super accurate... its just a great gun to shoot.

My favorite gun to carry and throw around in my car and camping bags is my Glock.

Different guns, different purposes. My Glock was cheap and it wont get dinged up as much under my seat than my 1911 would. I don't have to worry about my Glock rusting in my car with temp changes, or on my hip from sweat. It's also much lighter to carry my Glock all day than it is to carry my 1911.

You don't buy a plastic gun do have a dream shooter and you don't buy a metal gun for a throw around and carry all day piece.

[stormvet]

Well one of my metal 1911s has a polymer/plastic MSH, many times I thought about changing it out for a metal MSH. But now after 13 years many many thousands of rounds and being my main carry gun(yes I have been able to carry for over 20 years) I'm thinking what the hell for the plastic is working just fine.

[Kelster1574]

Doesn't really matter what folks call them, as long as people realize they are typically the best value for your dollar. I own many different brands of handguns, made up of different types of materials. Fact is IMHO I feel that Glock makes one of, if not the best handguns on the market....oh yeah and its plastic.

[SemperKilo]

Doesn't really matter what folks call them, as long as people realize they are typically the best value for your dollar. I own many different brands of handguns, made up of different types of materials. Fact is IMHO I feel that Glock makes one of, if not the best handguns on the market....oh yeah and its plastic.

To be fair, value is also subjective. A Glock holds absolutely no value to someone that desires a 1911. It's actually negative value because they will spend money on something that they don't want.

I had a Glock 22 but sold it because I didn't care for it, then I picked up a Glock 17 and I like it more than the .40, but it still feels like crap in my hand and I don't like the trigger. It's still an excellent beater gun and I plan on keeping it.

My 1911 I think has been they best value to me because I'm happy with the price I paid, it's super reliable, and I really like shooting it.

The Glock has value in other ways, and I got it dirt cheap, so the value in use vs price is good, but had I paid retail for it I would say it doesn't have as much value as the 1911 for me.

[blazeaglory]

Polymers will be around alot longer than any of us...

[Mitch]

So how did the marketing career go seeing as how you can't seem to accept or dig on the marketing fact any wise seller would choose to use polymer verbiage over plastic verbiage pretty basic marketing 101 concept: hype it up.

My marketing career went fine, which is why I now have my own business.

I succeed in business by never confusing perception with reality.

[Tarasdad]

Not all plastics are equal. Styrene and Lexan are both plastics but have significantly different strength and durability characteristics. Most polymer firearms components are made from an alloyed nylon that is far more durable and far stronger than people realize. Modern manufacturing techniques just add to the viability of using synthetic materials in place of traditional metals. I have no problem whatsoever with the idea of buying and using a firearm with polymer components (with a specific exception, but that's a personal grudge that I won't go into here).

[tj1371x]

Didn't they have this same argument when they replaced the M14 with those terrible plastic M16's? Lol


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[CAguy]

Anyone who thinks plastic is not tough should just look to the ocean. It's filled with plastic that has held up to conditions metal could only dream of.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Great_Pacific_garbage_patch

[13withinfinity]

God this argument has been going for on as long as I have been alive

[CG of MP]

Comparing static floating debris longevity with that of another item that will repeatedly be slathered up with oil and solvent, beatten on regularly (moving slide etc) and will then be expected to save your life is sort of silly IMHO.

[pastureofmuppets]

It's like those stupid plastic bumpers on cars, why would anyone want them when there are perfectly good meta...

Wait. What? Pretty much everyone who posts on this thread has plastic bumpers on their car?

Say it ain't so! It's plastic! It must be inferior to metal!

[Merc1138]

It's like those stupid plastic bumpers on cars, why would anyone want them when there are perfectly good meta...

Wait. What? Pretty much everyone who posts on this thread has plastic bumpers on their car?

Say it ain't so! It's plastic! It must be inferior to metal!

Do you have a plastic bumper? Or a plastic bumper cover on your car? The plastic body panel that your license plate is likely bolted to on a typical car is usually not the bumper.