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  • Schlyme
    Member
    • Mar 2012
    • 426

    Hypothetical Question

    Mod please relocate if I'm posting in the wrong area.


    Lets say I was out in the dessert riding my quad and came across a firearm. I take it to the local PD and turn it in. My question is if it is not registered to anyone, not reported lost or stolen, can I claim it for myself?
  • #2
    geedavell
    Senior Member
    • Jul 2011
    • 1820

    i wouldn't bother turning it in. I seriously doubt the PD will let you keep it.

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    • #3
      Wicked Pete
      Calguns Addict
      • May 2010
      • 5182

      What if it was stolen or used in a murder and dumped there? If say...you kept it and were stopped, the poo poo will hit fan. Yunno?

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      • #4
        bruceflinch
        I need a LIFE!!
        • Jan 2006
        • 40127

        Originally posted by geedavell
        i wouldn't bother turning it in. I seriously doubt the PD will let you keep it.
        If you got caught w/ a stolen murder weapon, I seriously doubt your bunghole would be the same size coming out of jail as it was when you went into jail....
        Actually I only started collecting Milsurps 3 years ago. I think I might own about 24...They're cheaper than guns that will most likely never get the opportunity to kill somebody...

        I belong to the group that uses firearms, and knows which bathroom to use.

        Tis better to have Trolled & lost, Than to never have Trolled, at all.

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        • #5
          Kappy
          Calguns Addict
          • Jul 2007
          • 5349

          Odds are that it was dumped after some crapbag used it to kill someone. You should turn it over.

          I don't know about the legalities, but I understand the ethics.
          Facts are stubborn things; and whatever may be our wishes, our inclinations, or the dictates of our passions, they cannot alter the state of facts and evidence.

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          • #6
            Turo
            Calguns Addict
            • May 2009
            • 5066

            They may or may not let you keep it, assuming it didn't belong to anybody else. It would probably depend heavily on the department.

            One thing though, I definitely wouldn't pick it up with my bare hands. I want no part in having my fingerprints anywhere near a weapon used in a murder. Even if they know I just found it.
            "The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time, with the blood of patriots and tyrants. It is its natural manure."
            -Thomas Jefferson

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            • #7
              Ron-Solo
              In Memoriam
              • Jan 2009
              • 8581

              Originally posted by geedavell
              i wouldn't bother turning it in. I seriously doubt the PD will let you keep it.
              Misappropriation of found property is by legal definition, a theft. Theft involving firearms is considered grand theft, punishable as a felony.

              Are you willing to give up your personal freedom and your gun rights for a gun you found lying in the desert?

              This doesn't even include the ramifications of any crime the gun may have been involved with.

              Your call........
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              1978-2011

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              • #8
                keenkeen
                Calguns Addict
                • May 2011
                • 6782

                Originally posted by Ron-Solo
                Misappropriation of found property is by legal definition, a theft. Theft involving firearms is considered grand theft, punishable as a felony.

                Are you willing to give up your personal freedom and your gun rights for a gun you found lying in the desert?

                This doesn't even include the ramifications of any crime the gun may have been involved with.

                Your call........
                Penal Code 485
                One who finds lost property under circumstances which give him knowledge of or means of inquiry as to the true owner, and who appropriates such property to his own use, or to the use of another person not entitled thereto, without first making reasonable and just efforts to find the owner and to restore the property to him, is guilty of theft.
                California's law against appropriating (or misappropriating) lost property (not "found" property) -- prohibits you keeping property that you find when there are clues identifying its true owner.1 You are not required to go to extremes to identify and contact the owner. But the law says you must make a reasonable attempt to do so.

                Proving a violation of PC 485 would be far from a slam dunk given what the OP described. But, as stated by Ron-Solo, it is likely not worth the potential risks.

                Handgun vs. Long Gun would likely make a difference, as a reasonable person would assume there may be a record of the owner of the handgun. Also, you would want to claim the property was "abandoned" not "lost" as there is no violation of PC 485 with regards to abandoned property. But, you had better get yourself a lawyer.
                "But far more numerous was the herd of such, Who think too little and who talk too much." -John Dryden

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