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  • #16
    five.five-six
    CGN Contributor
    • May 2006
    • 34842

    Originally posted by ty423
    haha thats mean.. you should also ask for a lane far away from people and where you can be alone...no targets either.
    ya know, I may need 2 bullets... just in case I miss with the first one

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    • #17
      vincentk
      Member
      • Apr 2010
      • 147

      Also from Targetmasters west, No headshots.

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      • #18
        Merc1138
        I need a LIFE!!
        • Feb 2009
        • 19742

        Originally posted by vincentk
        Also from Targetmasters west, No headshots.
        That's because they have so many customers that are just flatout bad shots, they don't want people hitting the target hangers and the line.

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        • #19
          j.primo
          Senior Member
          • May 2010
          • 1139

          Originally posted by Merc1138
          That's because they have so many customers that are just flatout bad shots, they don't want people hitting the target hangers and the line.
          "$40 charge if you ruin the equipment"
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          • #20
            ireload
            Veteran Member
            • Aug 2009
            • 2589

            It's pretty much a standard rule regarding gun rental in indoor gun ranges.

            In regards to the FMJ only ammo the only thing I can think of is the range is trying to keep the lead hazard at bay or minimize it -- faster clean up.

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            • #21
              Merc1138
              I need a LIFE!!
              • Feb 2009
              • 19742

              Originally posted by j.primo
              "$40 charge if you ruin the equipment"
              Or they could just have a policy since it becomes time consuming. Plus if you've gone to targetmasters more than once, you'd realize they don't actually pay any attention to the shooters other than glancing through the windows on occasion or looking up if they hear someone shooting quicker than they'd like.

              So it's easier for them to just say "Don't do xxxxx" than "If you do xxxxx we'll charge you $40, which will probably turn into an argument and take an hour to settle"

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              • #22
                five.five-six
                CGN Contributor
                • May 2006
                • 34842

                if you hit the wire, $40 is about right, if you break a trolly, $80 is more like it

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                • #23
                  Ricky-Ray
                  Veteran Member
                  • Jan 2010
                  • 3161

                  Originally posted by five.five-six
                  ya know, I may need 2 bullets... just in case I miss with the first one
                  Can I get a refund if I don't use the second bullet????
                  Ray

                  "If you lead your life the right way, the karma will take care of itself. The dreams will come to you." - Randy Paush, Carnegie Mellon University

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                  • #24
                    xannonbourne
                    Junior Member
                    • Oct 2010
                    • 1

                    No you will not get any refund if you don't use second bullet.It is just kind of policy maintained.

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                    • #25
                      cadillacmike
                      Junior Member
                      • Sep 2010
                      • 71

                      FMJ is also easier on the barrels, unjacketed rounds will foul up the barrel real fast.

                      As for the targets, for some reason i didn't get along with my target hanger last visit out, shot the target off twice by accident - and i'm usually pretty good. Could have just been a loose clip though...

                      But one time just for the he!! of it I shot the target off the holder with my last round of the day, from 25 yds with a 65 year old M1911A1! There was nothing left of that binder clip.

                      Usually 3 or 4 people shoot ther targets off the holders because the shoot so bad every time i go.

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                      • #26
                        mycrstuff
                        Senior Member
                        • Nov 2008
                        • 1403

                        Originally posted by Merc1138
                        That's because they have so many customers that are just flatout bad shots, they don't want people hitting the target hangers and the line.

                        If they're that bad of a shot what happens when they use targets printed at home. The 8.5 x 11 sheets of paper will have target circles within 2 inches of the hanger. Are those banned too or do they assume you know what you are doing since you brought your own targets.

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                        • #27
                          Merc1138
                          I need a LIFE!!
                          • Feb 2009
                          • 19742

                          Originally posted by mycrstuff
                          If they're that bad of a shot what happens when they use targets printed at home. The 8.5 x 11 sheets of paper will have target circles within 2 inches of the hanger. Are those banned too or do they assume you know what you are doing since you brought your own targets.
                          It's been a while since I've been to targetmasters, but I don't believe 8.5*11 sheets would fit in the hangers unless you put it sideways, and I've never seen anyone do that in there. I have seen people take one of their big 50 cent targets and then just tape their own over that. I just buy one of theirs and stick shoot'n'c's on it.

                          What's funny is at chabot when the idiots start taping their home printed 8.5*11 targets to the provided cardboard target and bullseye, is watching people get yelled at over the PA for sticking their targets outside the provided one on the backer, over and over. They put the targets at the edge of the cardboard, get yelled at to go fix it, make everyone else wait and stare at them while they're fixing it(and it's always someone at a 100y bench), then 15 minutes later during the next target change, it's the same idiot again.

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                          • #28
                            chim-chim7
                            Senior Member
                            • Aug 2010
                            • 1845

                            At my range, you can rent a gun solo, as long as you show up with your own gun. Never heard about the no lead bullets, I mean they are all lead inside. I think they mean to say, no steel jacketed bullets. Same as bi-metal. The problem is not penetration. Those backstops are thick, nothing is gonna get through that's allowed at the range. The danger is that the steel in the bullet can ricoshet and hit someone. Steel on steel=no good can come from that.
                            Thats why they only allow FMJ, you should also be fine with the lead cowboy bullets.

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                            • #29
                              CHS
                              Moderator Emeritus
                              CGN Contributor - Lifetime
                              • Jan 2008
                              • 11338

                              The biggest reason for FMJ is that when someone hits the target hanger with a lead or semi-jacketed bullet (JHP for example), the splatter from the impact can cut the lines on the hangers (and not just your own), ruin others targets, and you can get back-spatter to the other shooters creating a dangerous situation.

                              FMJ's and TMJ's will just deflect off the carrier into the backstop without creating a dangerous situation.

                              The backstops themselves can take FMJ's, JHP's, Lead, etc. It's almost never about the actual backstop, even though they'll sometimes tell you that. It's just an excuse to keep people from questioning it.
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                              • #30
                                HCz
                                Veteran Member
                                • Jun 2008
                                • 3295

                                Originally posted by bdsmchs
                                The backstops themselves can take FMJ's, JHP's, Lead, etc. It's almost never about the actual backstop, even though they'll sometimes tell you that. It's just an excuse to keep people from questioning it.
                                Backstop does matter. An indoor range I used to go to had those metal plates at an angle for backstop. Shooting JHPs increased the number of fragments flying back, as well as soft-pointed ones.

                                There are backstops that can take those rounds without problem, such as the shredded rubber ones. It all depends on the type of backstop.

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